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Fabman

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If you put the URL into the Wayback Machine https://archive.org/web/ there's a chance they have previous versions of that website archived.
Hmmm....not sure what the address is, its a phone app. I'm sure I can look on the SCCA site archives.
 

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Hardly anyone stayed for Sunday, Friday and Saturday was much fuller, but yes, being the end of the season it was pretty light and a lot of folks don't like the travel to T-Hill. Sunday was supposed to be the 5 mile and a lot of folks didn't want to run that so the field thinned out.
There has been as much as 20 cars in ITE but its usually less....we had a twin turbo Mazaratti show up Friday/Saturday in ITE that I never saw before, it was pretty cool. Its so expensive to run these events that not many people can do a full season, so how big the field is a always crap shoot.
I tell you this is crazy stuff....Stock Cars have it all over this series. If I didn't have this car already built I wouldn't be doing it. I would however, seriously consider an offer if anyone wanted to own it.

Agreed! I'm selling my T2 Mustang GT to go for a consistently bigger field. I'm going to a SRF Gen3 car so I can still go to Runoffs. I really don't like the Gen3 but I like the spec miata less. Everything else in a National class have 6 cars as a big field! Usually it's 2-3 cars all over the entire country. I love the Mustang but I'm mostly going around in circles by myself. There are better and cheaper ways to do that than SCCA. I need the rush of door handle to door handle racing.
 

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Agreed! I'm selling my T2 Mustang GT to go for a consistently bigger field. I'm going to a SRF Gen3 car so I can still go to Runoffs. I really don't like the Gen3 but I like the spec miata less. Everything else in a National class have 6 cars as a big field! Usually it's 2-3 cars all over the entire country. I love the Mustang but I'm mostly going around in circles by myself. There are better and cheaper ways to do that than SCCA. I need the rush of door handle to door handle racing.
Stock cars.
 

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There's more wheel to wheel racing in this 6 minutes than I used to have in an entire weekend of GT1 racing. Plus it shows why Kyle Larson has won 10 cup races and a dozen or so big dirt races this summer.

 

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There's more wheel to wheel racing in this 6 minutes than I used to have in an entire weekend of GT1 racing. Plus it shows why Kyle Larson has won 10 cup races and a dozen or so big dirt races this summer.

Plus it’s a much better spectator sport and easier to secure sponsorship because of it.
 

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I had a look at next years schedule and I'll probably only do 4 race weekends.
If anyone has a desire to own Frankenstang shoot me an offer.
I have a ton of spares, 16 wheels and a brand new cambered rear going in shortly.
Plus a 24' TPD triple axel trailer.
 

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Oh well... would be sorry to see your Stang go out to pasture..
well, I'm sure somebody will drive it....and if not, I will so its not going to waste away in some barn.
 
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well, I'm sure somebody will drive it....and if not, I will so its not going to waste away in some barn.

Not only that but you can make the build cost back very fast at the typical $2000-3000/race weekend rental. The only problem I have with that is the liability of owning the car should the driver hurt himself. The car is cheap and expendable when you compare that to what could happen if lawyers get involved. I wonder how the professional clubracing level shops do the liability thing?
 

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Just pulling your tail. Gotta to see what that cambered axle will do for you!!

Paul Newman is my role model as far a s racing goes., as he started late and finished late... Hope to be able to race something in 20 years from now.
 

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Just pulling your tail. Gotta to see what that cambered axle will do for you!!

Paul Newman is my role model as far a s racing goes., as he started late and finished late... Hope to be able to race something in 20 years from now.
I just don't like all this getting up at 2 am, driving for hours and being stuck at the race track for days on end.
Oval track you typically check in at noon, race ALL DAY LONG and load up with your winnings (yes, you get paid to race) around 11 pm and then sleep in on Sunday. Much more my speed.
 

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Not only that but you can make the build cost back very fast at the typical $2000-3000/race weekend rental. The only problem I have with that is the liability of owning the car should the driver hurt himself. The car is cheap and expendable when you compare that to what could happen if lawyers get involved. I wonder how the professional clubracing level shops do the liability thing?
If I didn't have to go with the car I'd consider it...
 

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Being stuck for days at the track would be a real downer if not an outright deal killer. Either work, or family, or both would nix that idea. No sign of any kind of pri$e for us at all... even the girls are on hold for the moment. At least all of our races are at a track thats 80 km away.
 

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Thunderhill 1.9 mile (including cyclone) qualifying *record run*

 
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And here is the full video for you hard core racers:

 

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looks like fun! That camaro looked quite skittish despite all that wide rubber.
Very fast T-1 car....some excitement with him in the main.
I'll post the race later.
 
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