Mad Hatter
Gotta go Faster
Take care with the cooling, the Bimmers I run against, go into limp mode all the time with overheated DCT's
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NEVER go back....Yup! Once your wheel to wheel... its hard to go back!
The chromoly is lighter cause can be smaller keeping the same strenght. But NASA has minimum cage rube sizes so unfortunately there would be no weight loss.
4130N tubing is used for cages and generally just tig welding with regular er70 filler (mild steel) is acceptable.. Higher strength applications will use higher strength filler but that generally requires some post weld stress relief which for most people is.... Not very practical.Fuzzy memory from the past, but doesn't CroMoly tubing also need annealing / normalizing around the weld areas to prevent embrittlement or something?
I mean, you can left foot brake with a race manual too. Guys have been doing that for 30 years w dog boxes. Takes some practice to do it right but, that's the simplest and cheapest gearbox option! Road race 4 speedUnfortunately is all about what targets. U want to win? A dct or sequential will be always faster.
(Cause u can also brake with left foot)
Wanna be a "purist"? Manual. That is why i think the option of manual and DCT would have been awesome.
I'm at that needing a transmission crossroads too....the simplest fix for me is a face plated magnum XL (Dog box) Everything will bolt back up which is nice but they are heavy and I don't need 6 gears. What else is out there in a similar price range that doesn't involve me rebuilding the car to fit or mortgaging my first born male child? You've met Richard...I kinna wanna keep him.I mean, you can left foot brake with a race manual too. Guys have been doing that for 30 years w dog boxes. Takes some practice to do it right but, that's the simplest and cheapest gearbox option! Road race 4 speed
Take care with the cooling, the Bimmers I run against, go into limp mode all the time with overheated DCT's
Good guyI'm at that needing a transmission crossroads too....the simplest fix for me is a face plated magnum XL (Dog box) Everything will bolt back up which is nice but they are heavy and I don't need 6 gears. What else is out there in a similar price range that doesn't involve me rebuilding the car to fit or mortgaging my first born male child? You've met Richard...I kinna wanna keep him.
Faceplated magnum XLTremec Transmissions
Joel Grannas ~ H-Pattern NEW World Record! 6.84 @ 213 mph Tremec Magnum Equipped and Fully Race Prepped by Liberty's Gears Tremec T-5 5-Speed Transmission Assembly - $2,000 Click here for more information on Tremec T-5 Transmissions Tremec TKX 5-Speed Transmission Assembly - $2,895 Click...libertysgears.com
You should be able to find used T101A's or jericos for 2,500-3,500. These things were behind the 750hp nascars of the day and the abuse they put them through, they are pretty stout.. Also, they are stupid simple and easy to rebuild too which is nice... You'd just need to find a bellhousing to go coyote to muncie pattern.... I am pretty sure vernier bell makes one for this, I haven't really searched it out that much though. Then you'd need a regular slip yoke style driveline which should be pretty easyI'm at that needing a transmission crossroads too....the simplest fix for me is a face plated magnum XL (Dog box) Everything will bolt back up which is nice but they are heavy and I don't need 6 gears. What else is out there in a similar price range that doesn't involve me rebuilding the car to fit or mortgaging my first born male child? You've met Richard...I kinna wanna keep him.
Faceplated magnum XLTremec Transmissions
Joel Grannas ~ H-Pattern NEW World Record! 6.84 @ 213 mph Tremec Magnum Equipped and Fully Race Prepped by Liberty's Gears Tremec T-5 5-Speed Transmission Assembly - $2,000 Click here for more information on Tremec T-5 Transmissions Tremec TKX 5-Speed Transmission Assembly - $2,895 Click...libertysgears.com
Or how bout an 80# 5 speed Jerico setup for road race? Huge weight savings w/dog rings. No idea on cost though - would have to call them and talk through itI'm at that needing a transmission crossroads too....the simplest fix for me is a face plated magnum XL (Dog box) Everything will bolt back up which is nice but they are heavy and I don't need 6 gears. What else is out there in a similar price range that doesn't involve me rebuilding the car to fit or mortgaging my first born male child? You've met Richard...I kinna wanna keep him.
Faceplated magnum XLTremec Transmissions
Joel Grannas ~ H-Pattern NEW World Record! 6.84 @ 213 mph Tremec Magnum Equipped and Fully Race Prepped by Liberty's Gears Tremec T-5 5-Speed Transmission Assembly - $2,000 Click here for more information on Tremec T-5 Transmissions Tremec TKX 5-Speed Transmission Assembly - $2,895 Click...libertysgears.com
Let's do it I might have another box available with road race ratios... With your rpm it would be an 80+mph first gear lol. Taking off might be a pain , just do a burnout to warm the tires up like you do anyways lol.I'm at that needing a transmission crossroads too....the simplest fix for me is a face plated magnum XL (Dog box) Everything will bolt back up which is nice but they are heavy and I don't need 6 gears. What else is out there in a similar price range that doesn't involve me rebuilding the car to fit or mortgaging my first born male child? You've met Richard...I kinna wanna keep him.
Faceplated magnum XLTremec Transmissions
Joel Grannas ~ H-Pattern NEW World Record! 6.84 @ 213 mph Tremec Magnum Equipped and Fully Race Prepped by Liberty's Gears Tremec T-5 5-Speed Transmission Assembly - $2,000 Click here for more information on Tremec T-5 Transmissions Tremec TKX 5-Speed Transmission Assembly - $2,895 Click...libertysgears.com
Here are my concerns....something that will fit in my tunnel without cutting. Now that the car is completed its a lot tougher to mod things without upsetting other things or climbing over door bars, re routing electrical etc. Currently the shifter comes out right behind my switch panel. A shorter trans will mean a new hole and re thinking that switch panel/electrical arrangement. There isn't a great place for it which is how it ended up where it did. I do have a slip yolk drive shaft already and could have that extended and I can deal with making a cross member. I'd need something with a 1:30 third gear. Any lower and I run out of steam and any higher and it wont pull off the corners. I only get away with this heavy car/low HP motor because the gearing is perfect for the tracks we run. The easy button is a modified Magnum XL but they are so heavy. s1sequential just sent me their new improved fancy pants shifter w/upgrades and that will only work on the magnum. A smaller clutch...I wonder what the minimum would be...mine is lighter than stock but its not a 5" multi plate or anything....that's a chunk of change right there. I also have a super limited budget.....like in terms of money......we have no money. lol. How much more money do I put into an obsolete car to race for no prize money? Meanwhile, the kids of the guys I used to race late models with are racing for 10k to win locally....10K to win...and they're kids! So much for me to think about....Let's do it I might have another box available with road race ratios... With your rpm it would be an 80+mph first gear lol. Taking off might be a pain , just do a burnout to warm the tires up like you do anyways lol.
The T101/101A are pretty similar. The main difference is the 101a use a "cuff" that ties the main and countershaft together with two bearings. So the 101A is generally the box that people try and buy because its stronger but, behind a coyote I doubt there would be any problems with either box..Random googling found a post that said G-Force (who bought Tex) may have used rebuilt units if you call them, and can install the ratios you want in a used box before they ship it. Also, the 101 and 101A parts may not completely interchangeable, so keep that in mind when looking at used boxes.
Looks like S1 makes a sequential to fit the G-Force/Tex & Jericot101 Archives
s1sequential.com
Replacing a TKO with a T-101A in an early Mustang - gives you an idea of shifter location differenceMustang T101 Transmission Swap | GTSparkplugs
This project is the swap of the GForce / TexRacing T101A transmission into The Ripper Mustang Fastaback. Shifter and linkage and the transmission tunnel needed some modifications to make it fit.www.gtsparkplugs.com
If no one else is interested - I am. Got a kit car coming that sure would be sweet with a good 4 speedThe T101/101A are pretty similar. The main difference is the 101a use a "cuff" that ties the main and countershaft together with two bearings. So the 101A is generally the box that people try and buy because its stronger but, behind a coyote I doubt there would be any problems with either box..
I have a spare T101 box laying around, it "may" be sold but I have heard that for almost 2 years now. If my buddy doesn't want it, it would go good in someone's race car ... Ratios are 1.88, 1.54 ,1.24 , 1:1
Shifter location is sort of a moot point, you can build a plate and set the shifter wherever you want on any of those race 4 speeds.