2012-2013 Boss 302 Advancetrac / You have 2 votes

[Flyboygsxr]

The purpose of this poll is to get input on the Boss 302s advancetrac system. I am under the impression and it was my experience that when the button was held for 7 seconds it would turn completely off. I have slid the car sideways drifting, spun out, and even kissed the wall slightly with it all turned off. I never felt any intervention from advancetrac when it was turned off. There was an event I ran at Inde in Arizona, a very rough track and I was running different size tires that caused advancetrac to randomly turn itself completely back on. I'm not debating that advancetrac will turn completely back on when it encounters some type of error, like spinning out and having some of the tires going forward while some are going in reverse. The verdict I am trying to reach is will it still cut the throttle or actuate the brakes if you hold the button for 7 seconds while the brake is depressed? Can you drift the Boss and have the freedom to slide the car or will it actuate brakes and cut throttle even after holding the button for 7 seconds. Thanks guys

Adam

 

[Mad Hatter]

Re: 2012-2013 Boss 302 Advancetrac

I have found that after the seven seconds "all off" routine, if you slide a bit much with semis or slicks, your traction control will come all the way back on. Only happens if you turn it all off. Sport mode stays off. Has happened with all three of the Mustangs in our club (2012,2013 and 2014).

 

[Flyboygsxr]

Re: 2012-2013 Boss 302 Advancetrac

I have found that after the seven seconds "all off" routine, if you slide a bit much with semis or slicks, your traction control will come all the way back on. Only happens if you turn it all off. Sport mode stays off. Has happened with all three of the Mustangs in our club (2012,2013 and 2014).

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[Swiss Boss]

Re: 2012-2013 Boss 302 Advancetrac

You forgot the option to update the ABS module to the race version from the Boss302S.

It looks it's because the ecu think the car is going to rollover and still tries to save you.
GM does the same but instead of turning the traction control ON, it deploy the side airbag.

 

[VoodooBoss]

Re: 2012-2013 Boss 302 Advancetrac

I only had mine turn back on twice and I don't remember what the scenario was when it happened. I felt more in control with the advancetrac off in the Boss because in would intervene a LOT in sport mode. With my GT350 I've been running in in Track mode and have only felt it barely intervene a couple of times in five track days.

 

[Black Boss]

My experience with the Boss was that Advacetrack will intervene with slicks, even when disabled. As Swiss Boss says the fix is the 302S ABS module.

Advacetrack also intervenes on the GT350 in Track mode if you push the car hard. In contrast to the Boss there seems to be no intervention when you disable Advancetrack.

 

[steveespo]

Changing the ABS module to one of the race versions will do it, also if you remove the clockspring from under the steering wheel it is disabled without chance for intervention. I don't know what else is affected by pulling the fuse.
Steve

 

[F.D. Sako]

hmm, I've never had mine turn back on, even on a skid pad... and I've also gotten intimate with a tire wall!

Just to clarify, I depress the brake pedal before hitting the button, not sure if that makes a difference. Also, seems like race slicks are what's re-activates Advancetrac. I've never run racing slicks, only DOT-R.

Question, when it turns back on for you guys, does the light reset, or it just reactivates without resetting the dash lights?

 

[Grant 302]

I have not had Advancetrac turn back on for me personally. But I believe that it can happen.

Sport mode interferes too often, way too severly and unpredictably on track.

 

[Flyboygsxr]

hmm, I've never had mine turn back on, even on a skid pad... and I've also gotten intimate with a tire wall!

Just to clarify, I depress the brake pedal before hitting the button, not sure if that makes a difference. Also, seems like race slicks are what's re-activates Advancetrac. I've never run racing slicks, only DOT-R.

Question, when it turns back on for you guys, does the light reset, or it just reactivates without resetting the dash lights?

It completely turns itself back on as if you had hit the traction control button yourself to reactivate it. The light in the dash goes out and the LCD displays "advancetrac on"

I too have only experienced it turning itself back on while running slicks. The question I am more concerned about is, is there still any intervention while it is turned off by depressing the brake and button for 7 seconds? Does it still activate the brakes and cut throttle in an understeer or oversteer situation?

 

[ArizonaBOSS]

Get 302R/S brake module for $350 and never worry about it again.

 

[F.D. Sako]

Side note: is the 302S/R module discontinued (even the one with the new part no.)?

 

[Swiss Boss]

Side note: is the 302S/R module discontinued (even the one with the new part no.)?

I received mine a few weeks ago no problem.
Here the new part # : M-2353-CA

That was the cheapest place I found.
https://fordracingpartsbydonwood.com/chassis-parts/abs-module/mustang-abs-module-boss-302r-s-m-2353-ca/

 

[noldevin]

Wasn't there a guy who recently discovered you could just pull one pin from the ABS harness to simulate switching to the race ABS unit (for free)?

 

[k98dave]

Never had it come back on in Sport Mode, but then never got the car out of control. Someone explain why running full slicks would make it come on? I would think it would activate more with street or DotR rubber. Is it due to higher g loading because of better lateral grip?

 

[captdistraction]

Wasn't there a guy who recently discovered you could just pull one pin from the ABS harness to simulate switching to the race ABS unit (for free)?

I imagine you could put it into a failure mode to drop advance track and traction control, but the profiling of the ABS for tires definitely is done in programming.

 

[noldevin]

I imagine you could put it into a failure mode to drop advance track and traction control, but the profiling of the ABS for tires definitely is done in programming.

True, i forgot about that other part.
I suppose the pin pull will work for those just looking to prevent traction control from coming back on, but for those that need a little more from the abs system you'll still need the race unit