Any of you see a big benefit to going to an aftermarket 10r80 valve body?

[Mtnbikerva]

Any of you see a big benefit going to a aftermarket 10r80 valve body?

 

[flyhalf]

Which one.

 

[blacksheep-1]

Dude... that was pretty ruthless..lol

 

[flyhalf]

Dude... that was pretty ruthless..lol

Mi scusi

 

[302BOB]

My Italian GF in high school thought I said something diifferent and slapped me back then....................................

 

[flyhalf]

Lol

 

[302BOB]

You know what I'm Talkin Bout!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[blacksheep-1]

Any of you see a big benefit going to a aftermarket 10r80 valve body?

@flyhalf Is out automatic trans authority. He has used one on a road course application with much success. You did not say if the was a road course, or quarter mile application.

 

[flyhalf]

@flyhalf Is out automatic trans authority. He has used one on a road course application with much success. You did not say if the was a road course, or quarter mile application.

I meant more which one company for the after market valvebody?

 

[Dave_W]

Since he's the authority here on how to get an auto trans to be fast on a road course, we can start by asking @flyhalf is he's still using the stock valve body or not, and if not which one he's using. Unless it's a racer secret, of course.

 

[Mtnbikerva]

I meant more which one company for the after market valvebody?

My other thought is a Ford won’t fix my 10r80 transmission with 9000 miles on it. Would I be better off going to a totally different trans. Maybe a much more durable and lighter manual transmission of some sort or some other automatic transmission?
Or sell/trade the car and buy a Corvette or Supra/BMW, or something else?
I’m just spitballing here trying to figure out possibly better options.
What company if any stands behind their product?
Thank you.

 

[flyhalf]

My other thought is a Ford won’t fix my 10r80 transmission with 9000 miles on it. Would I be better off going to a totally different trans. Maybe a much more durable and lighter manual transmission of some sort or some other automatic transmission?
Or sell/trade the car and buy a Corvette or Supra/BMW, or something else?
I’m just spitballing here trying to figure out possibly better options.
What company if any stands behind their product?
Thank you.

I need more info. What car you have? Do you have trans issues? What type? What aftermarket valve body you are considering?
Do you have any mods on the trans already?
How much power the car makes?

 

[Mtnbikerva]

I need more info. What car you have? Do you have trans issues? What type? What aftermarket valve body you are considering?
Do you have any mods on the trans already?
How much power the car makes?

2022 MACH 1
10r80
I do not know which valve body. I’m just spit pulling in here with different ideas and possibly better choices.
Totally stock, no mods, other than three chassis and Suspension improvements.
Gen 3 Coyote 480 hp 420 tq
BELOW IS A POST I’VE RECENTLY COME UP WITH :

Just spit balling here.
Better car and trustworthy manufacture than Ford?

I would like a car to road course with at times with. In the last month or so I got the HPDE bug.
My thought is if Ford fuks me, and won’t fix my 2022 MACH 1 w/HP, 9k miles car w/10r80 transmission. Be options?

I have taken immaculate care of my car. I bought a new complete WeatherTech mats and trunk mat for the car. I had it fully paint protected filmed.
I use Mobile 1 SUPERCAR oil in it.
The car looks better than new. I put a few BMR Suspension and chassis components on it and I was thinking about buying some new Apex Wheels.
I love the sound of the car with the stock adjustable exhaust and I enjoy the way the car drives now.
It does have good visibility out of the car unlike most others.

Would I be better off going to a totally different trans. Maybe a much more durable and lighter manual transmission of some sort or some other automatic transmission?

Or sell/trade the car and buy a Corvette or Supra/BMW, or something else?
The roof on the new Miata I test drove was too low, my head hit the roof without a helmet. Stock the Miata has zero power. For me it was kind of boring. I’m not disrespecting the Miata or its owners. I know it’s a totally different type of car and some people seem to love them. To each their own.

Trying to figure out possibly better options.

What company if any stands behind their product?

Thank you. HAPPY Thanksgiving!

 

[JDee]

Three words.
Cooling, Cooling, and Cooling.
You should have aftermarket coolers on the engine, trans and the diff. Especially the trans, the OEM cooling on it is not enough, but all 3 coolers are necessary for any serious track car.

Also, if you're not already doing it you should read @flyhalf posts, he has had great success with that trans.

 

[blacksheep-1]

You don't want a new vette, they are a problem child. Even the guys racing the new C8 think it's a PITA to work on, (unless you own a Maclaren, then the vette would be easier).
Have you tried the Ford 1 800 number?, that will get you to the factory, Ford has been pretty good at warranties, even exchanging engines broken on track days.

 

[byronj]

Not being Biased here. FORD does stand behind their products.Hell I can even go get a Ford warranty on my 16 GT350 and they know I track mine heavily. You might encounter issues with the dealer but once Ford gets involved they change their attitude. I know Ford has and dealers took care of @flyhalf transmission, plenty of engines have been replaced when being used on the track. My car prior to my purchase is one of them.
I recommend you do what you can to eliminate failure. Cooling, better clutches, cooling and if I didn't mention it cooling. If you get any other brand vehicle and push the car you will encounter the same issues and oddly it will come back to eliminating failure points. Oh and maybe cooling.

 

[Mtnbikerva]

Not being Biased here. FORD does stand behind their products.Hell I can even go get a Ford warranty on my 16 GT350 and they know I track mine heavily. You might encounter issues with the dealer but once Ford gets involved they change their attitude. I know Ford has and dealers took care of @flyhalf transmission, plenty of engines have been replaced when being used on the track. My car prior to my purchase is one of them.
I recommend you do what you can to eliminate failure. Cooling, better clutches, cooling and if I didn't mention it cooling. If you get any other brand vehicle and push the car you will encounter the same issues and oddly it will come back to eliminating failure points. Oh and maybe cooling.

My MACH 1 comes with coolers for all the fluids OEM.

 

[GAR944]

My MACH 1 comes with coolers for all the fluids OEM.

I think you may have missed the point. They aren't enough.
These guys offering information have done it all before you. What a manufacturer puts in for OEM is what they can get away with for their road car. What you can do to it on a track day, even 20 minute sessions, puts way more load on the systems than they ever imagined. Well they did imagine, but went 99.9% of owners wont be doing this.
If you wish to become part of the 0.1% then modifications are in your future. Serious ones. Not paint protection and floor mats.
Reading between the lines of your posts, i don't think you quite understand the level of modifications the majority of guys on here go to with their car. This isn't a cars and coffee group.
A pristine better than new looking car wont stay that way when it spends time on the track. Just try to make sure you know what you are in for. The guys on here are awesome and have been amazing with their information. Be open to listening to what they have to say.

 

[flyhalf]

Mach 1 has a better cooling than regular pp1.
They have engine oil Cooler and trans cooler too. (Side pots)
There is not really an After market except for Suncoast. But at 1500$ not sure is worth it. Especially at the beginning.
A think to do: is aftermarket clutches.
They tolerate better the heat and the repetition of efforts.

I use a thermostat bypass to have the cooler running from the moment I turn on the car
Not recommended in case of very cold temps. So be sure if u do, to warm the car up when really cold. (And maybe tape the inlet for the transmission cooler at least for session 1.)
The best scenario IMO is an internal bypass (I sell them for 29$) and an external thermostat that opens at 140f
The issue is the oem thermostat opens too late (190f) and the windows of operation is small, with max temps at 230f.
I just run the bypass and keep the car on gear to warm up(maybe on jackstands)

My car has zero issue with overheating. With temps below 200.
I do have a huge cooler tho.

To summarize. Mach 1 10speed is more capable than pp1 cars (or dark horse. )
But you need to keep in mind to keep your temps in check and know that the 10speed wasn't meant for the track

Supra is definitely a easy car to mod and boost. And it is being proven superfast on track. I would definitely consider it
C8 corvette is not the fastest on track however we lack of fast drivers so it might be the reason. (The car do tend to understeer due to the tiny front tires)
C7 corvette is a proven rocketship and the manual with his rev match makes it one of the fastest car for the track.
Hope this help.

 

[blacksheep-1]

"This isn't a cars and coffee group."

Legendary statement there.