Dry Sump?

[blacksheep-1]

IMO this and an oil cooler should do it. Dry sumps can have their own set of problems, the biggest is getting debris in the drive belt and throwing it, the other is having the oil line plug up or delaminating internally. Also, if you do have an engine come apart you will (or should) discard all of those dry sump lines.
A good wet pan a Moroso accusump and a big oil cooler should solve your problems.

https://www.cantonracingproducts.com/product/15-734/15-734---50-COYOTE-ROAD-RACE-T-PAN/

http://www.moroso.com/catalog/categorydisplay.asp?catcode=13600

http://www.cooltechllc.com/Boss/Boss_Oil_Cooler.shtml

 

[DGRacing]

IMO this and an oil cooler should do it. Dry sumps can have their own set of problems, the biggest is getting debris in the drive belt and throwing it, the other is having the oil line plug up or delaminating internally. Also, if you do have an engine come apart you will (or should) discard all of those dry sump lines.
A good wet pan a Moroso accusump and a big oil cooler should solve your problems.

https://www.cantonracingproducts.com/product/15-734/15-734---50-COYOTE-ROAD-RACE-T-PAN/

http://www.moroso.com/catalog/categorydisplay.asp?catcode=13600

http://www.cooltechllc.com/Boss/Boss_Oil_Cooler.shtml

Cool. Thanks for the links. Yeah, I had been eyeing that cooltech oil cooler for a while, but I'm worried it will take too much room up front and not play nice with a supercharged intercooler...

 

[blacksheep-1]

I'm not as familiar with the new Mustangs as you guys but I would think you could put it (or a similar model) in the fenderwell, put an aluminum plate behind it so a tire doesn't take it out and duct it.

 

[Jimmy Pribble]

At the WC race at COTA this past weekend, two guys from Roush Yates said that the dry sump system for the Boss race cars "will be ready soon." They did not elaborate further.

 

[captdistraction]

I'm curious to see the R/Y solution as well, though I see the interest from teams varied from "why not" to "absolutely not unless its free". My understanding is that it will be pretty pricey.

Most of the WC teams are running the 302R pan and stock oiling system with several different oil cooler configurations.

I'm running an analog of the FR kit air/oil and Boss water/oil cooler, along with the moroso pan (very very nice baffling/trap door setup in line with the 302R pan).

 

[yknot]

The Dry Sump Oil System at the Pro-Weld shop has many options and variables. You can choose from a Cast Aluminum, Billet Aluminum or a Metal oil pan. The billet oil pan starts out as a 36 lb block of aluminum and is whittled down to a very small and beautifully oil pan, one that is exponentially stronger then any other pan made for the modular engine. Infarct many use it also as a bottom end griddle or block stiffener.
The dry sump system will allow you to set the engine some 7-8" lower in the chasssis...this is a tremendous amount of weight to lower that much, and does wonders for a cars handling. Most competitive cars in racing use a Dry Sump oiling System, the benefits include, lower center of gravity, lower oil temperatures, less wind age losses, better ring sealing, better oil return or drip back, much better oil circulation as you have the ability to use a much larger oil pump (volume) and can circulate much more oil Thur the engine and it's bearings. The engine oil will stay cooler, cleaner and have much less aeration (air in the oil). No worry about pressure drop, from added cooling, long hose length or dynamic force working against oil (acceleration and turns). Excel ant for Turbochargers. Helps engine breath better and extra large oil capacity allows for a better system.
The Corvette ZR1 has a Dry Sump oiling System and so Will the Z/28 Camaro. It is very prevalent in NASCAR and other racing venues. You have total control over the engine oil system, allowing better oil flow, custom oil pressure regulation, you get away from the troublesome modular engine oil pump, allows you to get the air out of the oil, prior to sending back through the pump and bearings. Really a great system and addition to any race car or street car, the only negative side is the cost...but even that is not so bad compared to many other cost you typically see in racing.

Yes ProWeld has a system for the 4.6L, 5.0L, 5.4L, and the 5.8L modular engines...

 

[blacksheep-1]

Good points Steve. The short races normally would make this system not as useful but i was considering its cooling benefits for supercharged applications too. And the east coast summer heat is brutal as you know. A time trialer stock C5 blew its motor and dumped its oil at VIR last month and my session blew threw the kitty litter on the front straight creating a huge dust plume. From there....got me thinking....lol

All the parts are easily gotten off drysump.com and/or chicane23

FWIW the LS series engines seem a little "light" in that respect, I think (I think) that they are the only ones that can run a dry sump in Grand Am for that reason. I wouldn't base my decision making process off of that.

 

[nz05gt]

Just so you know I have fitted an AVIAID 4 stage pump and billet sump to our 302s from John at AVIAID and it is a very tight fit with our electric power steering.
-12 scavange and pressure lines [img=http://imageshack.us/scaled/medium/541/006roh.jpg]
and -16 suction hose

 

[ArizonaBOSS]

Just so you know I have fitted an AVIAID 4 stage pump and billet sump to our 302s from John at AVIAID and it is a very tight fit with our electric power steering.
-12 scavange and pressure lines [img=http://imageshack.us/scaled/medium/541/006roh.jpg]
and -16 suction hose

Great album...I'm jealous.

 

[nz05gt]

Thanks
there are a couple of new ones there now you might like as well

 

[ArizonaBOSS]

Thanks
there are a couple of new ones there now you might like as well

How is the CJ intake testing going?

 

[nz05gt]

It is a CJ motor and it pulled 503rwhp @7800 rpm on pump gas 98RON

 

[ArizonaBOSS]

Bad ass. Post the dyno sheet!

 

[nz05gt]

Sorry I had to remove this link as something has gone wrong with my Imageshack
you should be able to see the first run we did earlier when I get the rest I will post them

 

[sadil]

nz05gt, cant seem to access any of your pictures! Ive been drooling over your words, but have not seen anything lol. Real bummer, ive been trying to see more pictures of your hollinger set up, I would love to see a video of it all working on a track. Have you removed the photos? If your having trouble uploading, just send them to my email [email protected]

Thanks!

 

[nz05gt]

Sadil I will send some images

 

[nz05gt]

 

[steveespo]

Where is the oil tank mounted? What is dine with the stock oil pump?
Thanks
Steve

 

[nz05gt]

oil Tank is in the Right rear seat area. I removed old oil pump gears and left the housing

 

[sadil]

Thanks for the pics nz05gt! Amazing car, what did you end up doing with the original engine?