Elon Musk statement of owning anything other than a Tesla in 3 years??

[ChrisM]

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No, it doesn't. But starting the most successful American car company in a hundred years does. So does simultaneously launching the most successful private space company ever.

I guess if you define "successful" as "lost $1 billion in 2018" and propped up by government subsidies then sure.

 

[VoodooBoss]

Tucker never made any money either. Hopefully Musk is like Henry Ford and does eventually make money.

 

[byronj]

Tucker never made any money either. Hopefully Musk is like Henry Ford and does eventually make money.

I’ve always thought Tesla is the Modern age Tucker.

 

[The_Dead_Cow]

I'd like to see Tesla succeed regardless of who's running it or what they're selling. Seems like a good thing to have another American car company.

 

[domesticpower]

I have no respect for Musk. He is a very smart man but his ego and unethical (IMO) business practices are dragging his company down and A LOT of people investing in it. And it sucks because it would have been great to see another domestic company become big and succeed. We have only seen domestics close down the last couple of decades. He wanted to jump in too quickly and too big without having the know how and he often resorts to those outlandish claims which are nothing more than propaganda and scare tactics IMO.

I admire Christian von Koenigsegg. He is also a very smart man and have come up with a lot of innovative car technology to extend the life of ICE's (and started with a Ford modular block!!), but he is more down to earth. It's a very different industry in the hyper car world, for sure, but ultimately, it's the same uphill battle. He challenged established brands but did it methodically and took his time.

 

[VoodooBoss]

And what does Christian drive? You guessed it, a Tesla. I like a lot of what Mr. Koenigsegg does but he's far from a saint.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/christian-von-koenigsegg-bought-back-172300706.html

 

[Daegoba]

Elon Musk is the closest thing to Tony Stark we will probably ever see. He just needs to have people around him who know what it takes to guide him without hindering his ambition.

I don’t think he has that, and until he does, this is where we’re at.

 

[TymeSlayer]

Vision and Logic do not often come in the same cocktail.

 

[TMSBOSS]

Almost like he invented Betamax

 

[domesticpower]

I definitely agree with that, Rick. He is far from a saint, he's just much more moderate than Musk but he still possesses a lot of Musk's good quality like vision, entrepreneurship, and intelligence. I only used him as an example because sometimes people defend Musk by saying that's what you have to put up with for someone with those qualities but it's possible to have them and be more moderate. With that said, I don't think Musk is a reason not to buy a Tesla. Tesla does make an impressive EV and I would hate to see it fail (as much as I want the ICE to live as long as possible...)

 

[Norm Peterson]

He works on the FOMO principal of development. Fear Of Missing Out.

Interesting thought.

To dig into it a little deeper, that suggests that most people are willing to let somebody else tell them what they're supposed to want, and let that run roughshod over what they're currently happy with.

Sorry, Elon, if anything, that tune plays in this house with lyrics from the Fear Of Losing Something I Already Have verse.


Norm

 

[302BOB]

willing to let somebody else tell them what they're supposed to want,

Nobody told me I wanted my Boss...I did that on my on accord( no offense Honda) If you want an EV, you'll get one.Tesla just happens to be the king of that market right now..................

 

[Daegoba]

I don’t think it’s so much him telling someone what they want, as it is him creating a need in the customers mind.

When I sold cars years ago, I didn’t really have much success until I realized that people already wanted what I had; I merely had to help them 1) overcome their own objections, or 2)see the necessity over the desire.

Elon is very good at that. He gives us what he considers the best product at a fair price with zero compromises. That is what separated him from the other manufacturers. His ability to start with a clean slate and a fresh approach.

 

[Norm Peterson]

Nobody told me I wanted my Boss...I did that on my on accord( no offense Honda) If you want an EV, you'll get one.Tesla just happens to be the king of that market right now..................

Exactly . . . and Elon's pitch is coming across as him trying to define what "on my own accord" is supposed to mean to me.


Norm

 

[TMSBOSS]

he Is trying to raise cash for a product once propped up by tax payer cash and is now behind goals and expectations. Yep, a great business plan.

 

[302BOB]

EV's are a good answer to commute for a lot of people right not and in the future, so this adventure may see reaps and bounds in tymes to come....

 

[Grant 302]

You're number 3 point means you probably will never own one in your lifetime.

Battery swap might qualify. I wouldn't want to do that, but might work if the infrastructure is setup to do it.

 

[Fat Boss]

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I guess if you define "successful" as "lost $1 billion in 2018" and propped up by government subsidies then sure.

Amazon ran huge losses for many years and is now one of the most valuable companies in the world. But no, I define successful as selling a ton of cars and having a pretty happy customer base over a fairly large period of years. It's kind of a loaded question as there really haven't been any successful car companies started in the past 100 years.

 

[ChrisM]

I really don't care one way or another. If people want Teslas, go right ahead. What I do care about is the beatification of Musk by the Church of Climate Change and the worship of electric vehicles as some kind of atonement for sins against Gaia. If electric cars are the way trends are moving, that's fine, but I'm not much for hero worship, especially when it feels like it's being forced on me by using my tax dollars to keep them propped up (yes, I know there's a lot to unpack there too).

Obviously I have strong feelings about it, so I will bow out of this one.

 

[JDee]

I particularly love when they refer to electric cars as zero emission. As if electric power just materializes all on its own......