I ran Trick Flow springs in my 3v after I did the cam/phaser mods. They are made by PAC but to their own specs, very good setup that's pretty competitively priced.
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Engine Rebuild
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Moving forward with the rebuild in January. JPC will start the teardown in a few weeks and will be going with the RGR short block. I'll update with further details and pictures on damage once the motor is pulled - should be interesting.
Crap situation but glad to hear you will be underway again soon. Great sig photo, BTW
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Made a little progress before I drop the car off for the motor rebuild.
- Uninstalled Mishimoto oil cooler. The cooler worked well and kept oil temps below 265* but I was always suspect on the build quality/reliability and did not want to take any chances with the new motor which will push more RPM and power
- Reinstalled factory oil cooler (heater), Improved Racing remote filter adapter/mount/race hoses & fittings, as well as a Setrab 948 oil cooler
- Fabbed up a simple mount for the Setrab using 1" square aluminum tied into the factory radiator support bars with rivnuts.
- Uninstalled Mishimoto oil cooler. The cooler worked well and kept oil temps below 265* but I was always suspect on the build quality/reliability and did not want to take any chances with the new motor which will push more RPM and power
- Reinstalled factory oil cooler (heater), Improved Racing remote filter adapter/mount/race hoses & fittings, as well as a Setrab 948 oil cooler
- Fabbed up a simple mount for the Setrab using 1" square aluminum tied into the factory radiator support bars with rivnuts.
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Wrapped the ARH catted headers
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Engine out. Block and heads off to RGR
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Got the new M-6675-M52RR FP road race oil pan delivered. Comes with a new windage tray and hardware. Will be running a GT350 oil pump and ordering the required pickup tube in a few weeks when they’re available.
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Call Ford Performance and verify that you should or can use the GT350 pump. The pan lists different pickup tubes based if you have a 5.0L or 5.2L engine.
I also suggest you get a pump with billet gears or buy a set of TSS gears.
I also suggest you get a pump with billet gears or buy a set of TSS gears.
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The plan was to use the GT350 oil pump and 5.2L specific oil pickup tube (due to larger outlet and lower aeration) but will confirm with FP to ensure the application ad clearances are correct. Also, already have TSS oil pump gears and crank sprocket so all set there.
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You might want to check with FP on the cylinder heads as well - the pre-assembled Voodoo heads they sell come with instructions for changing an oil flow restrictor inside the oilway. You use a smaller one (stock) with a Voodoo oil pump and a larger one with a GT oil pump. Presumably this keeps the pressure somewhere in the head from getting too high, so the GT heads may have it as well. Since you're going to be talking to them, you might as well ask.
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Good thing to ask about. But, I suspect not changing the restrictor would be ok. Ford Performance sells a GT350 oil pan and pump kit for the 5.0L that does not require a change in the restrictor. I also suspect the restrictor is more to redirect the additional oil flow to the rods and mains vs. over oiling the valve train.
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Based on my conversation with FP this afternoon, the GT350 oil pump and 5.2L specific pickup tube was advised for the application. I also asked about the oil restrictors as noted in the 5.2L cylinder head install https://performanceparts.ford.com/download/instructionsheets/FordInstShtM-6049_or_6050-M52.pdf and this is a non-issue for my application (keeping the 5.0 Coyote heads). Please let me know if any of this seems factually incorrect!
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Update from JPC/RGR: block and heads are in great shape. RGR will install new valve guides and seals with a deck clean up on the heads. Not doing any porting work. Custom horizontal gas ported pistons are still in process but that is the only item holding up the final short block assembly.
The 5.2L pickup tube for the FP road race oil pan (M-6622-M52RR) have a mid-late April availability, possibly sooner.
On a side note, I discussed the setup with a FP engineer and also confirmed with Setrab - they advised to mount the oil cooler with the feed ports on the side (vertically) vs. bottom (as I currently have mounted) as this could cause an incomplete fill of the oil cooler, reducing efficiency. I'll plan to reorient the cooler 90* to fix this potential issue.
The 5.2L pickup tube for the FP road race oil pan (M-6622-M52RR) have a mid-late April availability, possibly sooner.
On a side note, I discussed the setup with a FP engineer and also confirmed with Setrab - they advised to mount the oil cooler with the feed ports on the side (vertically) vs. bottom (as I currently have mounted) as this could cause an incomplete fill of the oil cooler, reducing efficiency. I'll plan to reorient the cooler 90* to fix this potential issue.
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This wait for the pickup tube is killing me! Supposed to get my motor back end of the month. So close, yet so far.
captdistraction
GrumpyRacer
Right there with you on the pickup tube. I’m still hearing 6 weeks. Anything different there?
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I got a PM on another platform that said Watson and FP were still trying to negotiate pricing and that end of April was the earliest we might see it. Boo
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Excuse my ignorance, but why spend $13k for a rebuild when you can get a brand new one for $6,600?
Excuse my ignorance, but why spend $13k for a rebuild when you can get a brand new one for $6,600?
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Its about trying to get a more reliable engine for track use.
Gtorpedo runs a 7,500 RPM plus rev limit with more power. The new build has much better rods, rod bolts, pistons, and rings than OEM. It also should have a lot better quality control on clearances and be properly balanced.
Are the stock Voodoo engines honed with torque plates during assembly?
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