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Fabman

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Sorry full of questions. What was your oil pressure with all the mods? I was a little worried that my pressure went down after all the mods (I missed that about the oil pump). Was that with that with the square 350/30-18 Hoosiers? What where your impressions of the handling and braking compared to the previous setup?? Very interested to see your take on the Cortex SLA setup.

Was great to see those stock cars struggle trying to pass you!

I forgot that you had the electric water pump. Makes me feel just a tad bit better about my dyno numbers.
No problem, ask away.
Oil pressure is good. Go back to the test day video I posted earlier. In that video the inside of the car was lit up well enough to read the gauges as I drove. The oil pressure gauge is the 3rd one from the left. You can cast it to a smart TV and watch it on a big screen and see all the gauges in action very clearly.
Tires are my usual 335/30/18 square R7's. The cortex SLA rocks. That coupled with the aero mods and rear sway bar delete is whats working for me. The old setup was just too high to get any significant downforce from the splitter.
Two of those stock cars are sporting 1000 hp Nascar motors.
 

Fabman

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Sorry full of questions. What was your oil pressure with all the mods? I was a little worried that my pressure went down after all the mods (I missed that about the oil pump). Was that with that with the square 350/30-18 Hoosiers? What where your impressions of the handling and braking compared to the previous setup?? Very interested to see your take on the Cortex SLA setup.

Was great to see those stock cars struggle trying to pass you!

I forgot that you had the electric water pump. Makes me feel just a tad bit better about my dyno numbers.
Remember, this is a gen 2 Coyote, they start out with more power than a gen 1.
 

Fabman

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Here's a linky to that video:
 

Mad Hatter

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Remember, this is a gen 2 Coyote, they start out with more power than a gen 1.

True, but my junkyard gen1 heads where ported and polished with bigger valves... Am getting 468rwhp, but with 26degrees advance and 3 degrees knock. mean to get Shaun to look at that when he has time.;). Thats with 93 pump gas. In the end very similar numbers.

I got the impression that the stockcars had the wrong gearing for the track??
 

Fabman

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True, but my junkyard gen1 heads where ported and polished with bigger valves... Am getting 468rwhp, but with 26degrees advance and 3 degrees knock. mean to get Shaun to look at that when he has time.;). Thats with 93 pump gas. In the end very similar numbers.

I got the impression that the stockcars had the wrong gearing for the track??
No they run here all the time. Probably too cold to get traction, it was a cool morning at 8:30 am. I warm my tires aggressively for this very reason.
The guy in the blue stock car came over to me afterwards and said if I hadn’t broke too deep in that one corner they never would have been able to get by me. Not sure if that was a complaint or a compliment but he did mention several times how fast the car was. A lot of folks came to check it out afterwards. New kid on the block and all....
 

Fabman

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True, but my junkyard gen1 heads where ported and polished with bigger valves... Am getting 468rwhp, but with 26degrees advance and 3 degrees knock. mean to get Shaun to look at that when he has time.;). Thats with 93 pump gas. In the end very similar numbers.

I got the impression that the stockcars had the wrong gearing for the track??
Can you guys run e85? It was worth about 12 hp with the tune update over 91 pump gas. Plus it’s cheap and runs cool.
 

Mad Hatter

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No they run here all the time. Probably too cold to get traction, it was a cool morning at 8:30 am. I warm my tires aggressively for this very reason.
The guy in the blue stock car came over to me afterwards and said if I hadn’t broke too deep in that one corner they never would have been able to get by me. Not sure if that was a complaint or a compliment but he did mention several times how fast the car was. A lot of folks came to check it out afterwards. New kid on the block and all....
He probably meant both!!
 

Mad Hatter

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Can you guys run e85? It was worth about 12 hp with the tune update over 91 pump gas. Plus it’s cheap and runs cool.
it Runs about 12 bucks a gallon down here..... Imported barrels from the USA. Looking into mixing it ourselves... But Wife says I cant store barrels of fuel around the house... 🤷‍♂️
 

Fabman

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it Runs about 12 bucks a gallon down here..... Imported barrels from the USA. Looking into mixing it ourselves... But Wife says I cant store barrels of fuel around the house... 🤷‍♂️
Damn wives, they ruin all the fun.
 

Fabman

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Any idea why my tach does this?

 

Fabman

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Sal, It might be because you pushed it to the limit one TWO many tymes....I may be wrong here......................
Naw, we just hooked it up.
It wasn't working at all so we bought a module for distributerless ignitions so now it works, but bounces all over.
 

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I'd say loose connection or interference as prime suspects. Don't overlook the ground side. Try grounding both the tach and the adapter (AutoMeter 9117?) to the block. https://www.autometer.com/blog/faq-post/where-is-the-best-ground-for-autometer-gauges/

It may also be a "feature" of the tach's fast response rate. This video seems very similar and has a cheap & easy fix that may work: https://www.autometer.com/blog/faq-post/my-tach-pointer-is-erratic-jumpy/

AutoMeter has part #9116 tach signal filter "Designed to help correct bouncy, or spiking tachometer operation caused by points or noisy ignitions." Not sure if it's any better than the cheap fix above.

Probably not an issue, but make sure the tach adapter is wired to a coil supply voltage wire that's common to all coils, not the ECU trigger wire for a single coil - see the "Connecting to an Individual Coil Per Plug Ignition System" graphic on the wiring diagram.

You can also call their tech line 866.248.6356 M-F 8-5 Central.
 

Fabman

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I'd say loose connection or interference as prime suspects. Don't overlook the ground side. Try grounding both the tach and the adapter (AutoMeter 9117?) to the block. https://www.autometer.com/blog/faq-post/where-is-the-best-ground-for-autometer-gauges/

It may also be a "feature" of the tach's fast response rate. This video seems very similar and has a cheap & easy fix that may work: https://www.autometer.com/blog/faq-post/my-tach-pointer-is-erratic-jumpy/

AutoMeter has part #9116 tach signal filter "Designed to help correct bouncy, or spiking tachometer operation caused by points or noisy ignitions." Not sure if it's any better than the cheap fix above.

Probably not an issue, but make sure the tach adapter is wired to a coil supply voltage wire that's common to all coils, not the ECU trigger wire for a single coil - see the "Connecting to an Individual Coil Per Plug Ignition System" graphic on the wiring diagram.

You can also call their tech line 866.248.6356 M-F 8-5 Central.
Thanks we'll look into these.
 

Fabman

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First two races:
First and second places. lol.

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Fabman

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Good Job! whens your next race?
Thanks! Last weekend of the month.
I need to find some more speed because you know after last weekend everybody else will be.
 

Mad Hatter

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Curious about what you thought of the RST2 Pagid pads. What wing angle did you use..? I went from 5 degrees to 3 degrees and thinking about 0 degrees for the next race. looks like we will not hit the track till next month 😔.
 

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