Fabman
Dances with Racecars
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One was enough for me...I'm not doing THAT again ever.I'm still married to my second ex-wife
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One was enough for me...I'm not doing THAT again ever.I'm still married to my second ex-wife
What class are you running in?While I can appreciate the zen of just having fun with your car, I can't do it. If there isn't timing and scoring, I'm not interested. I've raced since I was a kid in mx. My fun is winning and/or beating cars that you should not beat.
I'm not up for the constant work of real racing anymore but I've found an awesome niche in high speed autox. I won 6 out of 6 in 2020, 4 of 6 in 2019 and 2 in 2018 when I first got serious again. Prior to that I had run a few times in the 3rd-5th range and just kept thinking, "I can beat these guys, they're not that fast".
And this is all with a real street car, full interior, a/c, no cage, no race seat, spring rates are street tolerable and no real aero (but I do have wing envy). While other cars are rolling in on trailers, I drive mine, towing my stupid little tire trailer and kick their ass. Thats my fun.
But if I had to do it all over again, I would do everything different, everything, girlfriends, jobs, race classes, etc. Not because anything is wrong now but just as an experiment to see what would happen.View attachment 63147
Pic from last July. I've added a few more since.
Yes. Had I known what the track was all about, I would not have gotten the Premium model. The cushy leather heated/cooled seats are useless on the track and now someone else owns them for a 1/3 of what I paid. Although the Shaker stereo is nice to help power over the exhaust....I would have left mine a super fast street/drag/show car and purchased a donor to build as a full race car instead of transforming my show car piece by piece into a track car until it was no longer street legal and eventually became an SCCA legal race car. It would have been cheaper, more satisfying and I'd have a race car with fewer compromises in the final product.
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The bottom line is, are you having fun?
Back around 1973, the engine I built up would have had either slightly less aggressive choices in cam and compression, or somewhat more aggressive choices in intake and head work. This was for what was the only car we had at the time, a build prompted as much by its OE timing belt failing as anything (if I have to open the engine up to inspect for deeper damage, I might as well build it up "a bit" on the way out, right?).For those of you who have "gone too far" with a street car, I'd like to posit one more question. Where would you have "stopped" to leave it enjoyable on the street? A cage is an obvious one, as climbing over door bars with a morning coffee is annoying. But short of that, what say you?
cgornowich........ a great big Ditto about a supercharged Saleen track car!
You should come work for me...you'll have even less.- at least given the levels of disposable income I currently have available.
Which 14" rear rotors...Baer Eradispeed or a GT 500 setup?ChrisM If you are inquiring about my black Saleen Mustang setup it is not that special compared to most TMO track cars. 2006 Saleen 281SC with the Saleen Supershaker hood scoop setup just added this winter for the best "cold air intake possible - ambient air as all air to engine comes solely through the hood scoop. 99% of people do not know the John Player Special livery (always black car, gold accents) - Lotus F1 Champs, Mario Andretti, Aryton Senna, etc. Just a silly whim for me. Saleeen Series VI supercharged, Kenne Bell Boost-A-Pump for fuel delivery, , a water misting system for the AFCO radiator, Setrab oil cooler and heat exchanger. NASA TT 3600lb with me and gas in it. Cortex coilovers, Cortex Watts Link, Cortex Torque Arm, 3-4 deg neg camber available, FR500C A-arms with extended studs w/Steeda Bumpsteer kit, Whiteline poly bushings, BMR Relo-brackets w/BMR lower control arms, Apex EC7 Gold 18x11 & Forgestar Gold CF5 18x11, Hoosier 315/30/18 tires. Shown are my 5 spoke Saleen Extreme forged 5 spoke street wheels. Stoptech front 14" 2-piece rrotors/brakes and 14" 2-piece rear rotors, FRRP Alminum driveshaft, Bobs diff can, Torsen 2TR 3:55 diff, 5 spd, Recaro SR5 Seat, rear seat delete, etc, 5 pt harness/roll bar, 35mm adj front bar and 18mm rear bar, 650lb/350 Eibach springs, Braille 9lb trunk battery , 128oz Intercooler reservoir. max flow marine intercooler pump, custom strut Moroso Oil separator, bar. Front splitter and APR rear wing. No CATS. To combat heat build up with the supercharger in track sessions: I take the one "outlap" to warm up tires and brakes, then immediately hammer down for two timed laps and then one cool down lap and I am done for that TT session.
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I have the same rear setupRear 14" Rotors are the Baer Eradispeed 2 piece rotor setup (slots only, no holes) because of the simplicity of using just brackets to offset the stock calipers for the 14" (actual 14" dia not 13.8") 2 piece Eradipeed rotors. Replacement Baer rear rotors rings are about $240 each.
I was also sort of commited to the rear Baer setup because instead of the usual Brembo front calipers, the Saleen Mustangs used Saleen branded Stoptech ST40 calipers and Baer also makes the front Eradispeed 2pc 14" rotors for the Saleen front Stoptech setup.