Interesting comment on the Boss CAI

[big red one]

Here's a video of the LS at Jay leno's garage, there's an interesting discussion between him and the Ford engineer about aftermarket CAI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LXYK4rR7Sw&feature=player_embedded

 

[F.D. Sako]

That's why most new CAIs require a tune to make a diff or for the car to run right.

 

[RoushF150]

I like Dave but he has to say certain things. Since he also had to say that there was no advatage to change the shifter and that the BOSS shifter was as good as an aftermarket shifter the CAI comment becomes meaningless...even if it is true.

 

[Justin]

I like Dave but he has to say certain things. Since he also had to say that there was no advatage to change the shifter and that the BOSS shifter was as good as an aftermarket shifter the CAI comment becomes meaningless...even if it is true.

I second that. and why would the engineer admit to "yeah aftermarket parts are better than ford parts" he wouldnt he would probably lose his job.

 

[coboss]

Unless you are increasing the size of the MAF and getting a custom tune, you are not going to see much of a boost from an aftermarket CAI. The stock one has good airflow, and the intake temps are very close to outside air temps most of the time. I have a '13 and the intake temp displays on the LCD. It is always within 2-3 degrees of outside when the car is moving.

Increasing the size of the MAF requires a tune.

Ford did a great job on the Boss engine, and unless you are willing to take risks with an aftermarket tune, there is not a lot you can do to bump the HP.

 

[Justin]

Unless you are increasing the size of the MAF and getting a custom tune, you are not going to see much of a boost from an aftermarket CAI. The stock one has good airflow, and the intake temps are very close to outside air temps most of the time. I have a '13 and the intake temp displays on the LCD. It is always within 2-3 degrees of outside when the car is moving.

Increasing the size of the MAF requires a tune.

Ford did a great job on the Boss engine, and unless you are willing to take risks with an aftermarket tune, there is not a lot you can do to bump the HP.

totally agree with you on that. but his statement was a little vague and made it out to be that no aftermarket CAI would increase power. then goes to say that the boss shifter is better than an aftermarket shifter......ppppppllleeeaaasssee I call BS on that 100% the stock shifter compared to anything aftermarket is a POS. Granted its better than say the T-5 factory shifter no doubt T-45 yes T-56 yes but an aftermarket shifter no way.

As for the IAT temps on my boss it too comes in very close to the outside temps when data logging. it uses a sheild that retains the port from the factory box.

 

[jeepinocala]

Imagine if they gave Leno the regular key what he would have said of the skip-shift feature and the cant change gears at redline feature ;D

 

[ArizonaBOSS]

Unless you are increasing the size of the MAF and getting a custom tune, you are not going to see much of a boost from an aftermarket CAI. The stock one has good airflow, and the intake temps are very close to outside air temps most of the time. I have a '13 and the intake temp displays on the LCD. It is always within 2-3 degrees of outside when the car is moving.

Increasing the size of the MAF requires a tune.

Ford did a great job on the Boss engine, and unless you are willing to take risks with an aftermarket tune, there is not a lot you can do to bump the HP.

totally agree with you on that. but his statement was a little vague and made it out to be that no aftermarket CAI would increase power. then goes to say that the boss shifter is better than an aftermarket shifter......ppppppllleeeaaasssee I call BS on that 100% the stock shifter compared to anything aftermarket is a POS. Granted its better than say the T-5 factory shifter no doubt T-45 yes T-56 yes but an aftermarket shifter no way.

As for the IAT temps on my boss it too comes in very close to the outside temps when data logging. it uses a sheild that retains the port from the factory box.

You might get a small gain from an aftermarket CAI, but any real power gain from a CAI/Tune combo is coming from the tune itself.

 

[Justin]

tune by itself makes less power than a tune plus CAI. Maybe someone that is a tuner and has dyno'd lots of these cars will speak up.

 

[VoodooBoss]

Imagine if they gave Leno the regular key what he would have said of the skip-shift feature and the cant change gears at redline feature ;D

No skip shift on a 2013.

 

[PeteInCT]

Unless you are increasing the size of the MAF and getting a custom tune, you are not going to see much of a boost from an aftermarket CAI. The stock one has good airflow, and the intake temps are very close to outside air temps most of the time. I have a '13 and the intake temp displays on the LCD. It is always within 2-3 degrees of outside when the car is moving.

Increasing the size of the MAF requires a tune.

Ford did a great job on the Boss engine, and unless you are willing to take risks with an aftermarket tune, there is not a lot you can do to bump the HP.

totally agree with you on that. but his statement was a little vague and made it out to be that no aftermarket CAI would increase power. then goes to say that the boss shifter is better than an aftermarket shifter......ppppppllleeeaaasssee I call BS on that 100% the stock shifter compared to anything aftermarket is a POS. Granted its better than say the T-5 factory shifter no doubt T-45 yes T-56 yes but an aftermarket shifter no way.

As for the IAT temps on my boss it too comes in very close to the outside temps when data logging. it uses a sheild that retains the port from the factory box.

You might get a small gain from an aftermarket CAI, but any real power gain from a CAI/Tune combo is coming from the tune itself.

Agreed. A CAI by itself is a cosmetic enhancement only, I know - I have one. I don't believe the Ford guy misspoke at all.

 

[jimprw]

Unless you are increasing the size of the MAF and getting a custom tune, you are not going to see much of a boost from an aftermarket CAI. The stock one has good airflow, and the intake temps are very close to outside air temps most of the time. I have a '13 and the intake temp displays on the LCD. It is always within 2-3 degrees of outside when the car is moving.

Increasing the size of the MAF requires a tune.

Ford did a great job on the Boss engine, and unless you are willing to take risks with an aftermarket tune, there is not a lot you can do to bump the HP.

totally agree with you on that. but his statement was a little vague and made it out to be that no aftermarket CAI would increase power. then goes to say that the boss shifter is better than an aftermarket shifter......ppppppllleeeaaasssee I call BS on that 100% the stock shifter compared to anything aftermarket is a POS. Granted its better than say the T-5 factory shifter no doubt T-45 yes T-56 yes but an aftermarket shifter no way.

As for the IAT temps on my boss it too comes in very close to the outside temps when data logging. it uses a sheild that retains the port from the factory box.

You might get a small gain from an aftermarket CAI, but any real power gain from a CAI/Tune combo is coming from the tune itself.

Agreed. A CAI by itself is a cosmetic enhancement only, I know - I have one. I don't believe the Ford guy misspoke at all.

+1 In most cars you'll notice a tune, but a CAI alone vs. the stock air filter if there is a difference, you'd probably see it only on a dyno from a purely technical standpoint; you wouldn't notice anything as a driver. CAIs, especially the carbon fiber ones, sure look good tho....

 

[ArizonaBOSS]

No skip shift on a 2013.

wtf really?

 

[Justin]

No skip shift on a 2013.

wtf really?

yeah and they got an ipod jack.......I really want the ipod jack

 

[jeepinocala]

No skip shift on a 2013.

wtf really?

yeah and they got an ipod jack.......I really want the ipod jack

Funny cause isn't that an ipod jack in the center console? Justin, I will get a picture of my setup for ipod and all when I get a chance you may like the setup.

 

[Justin]

Head phone jack is all I got.

 

[Boss949]

No skip shift on a 2013.

wtf really?

yeah and they got an ipod jack.......I really want the ipod jack

I have an IPod jack? What's an iPod ?

As for the 2013 not having a skip shift? I had the dealer disconnect mine. Build date 5/22/12

 

[VoodooBoss]

As for the 2013 not having a skip shift? I had the dealer disconnect mine. Build date 5/22/12

I hope you didn't pay for that.

 

[Boss949]

5 DOT 0,

No, I didn't .....

 

[PJWANNABE]

5 DOT 0,

No, I didn't .....

Don't let them charge you for topping off your power steering fluid either....