New goodyear DOT tire. An Hoosier challenger?

[flyhalf]

https://www.facebook.com/1655368591394529/posts/2954035931527782

 

[Mad Hatter]

Was just looking at those..... Wish some one would come up with a great track tire that cost around US$250.

 

[flyhalf]

But ..those are almost 100$ less than A7. HOWEVER it seems from the description an R7 type of tire...

 

[Mad Hatter]

Sorry, I was thinking of my prices down here in Chile. Here, theR7 comes out quite a bit cheaper then those.

 

[PaddyPrix]

So any guesses? 3R full slick? Shame they've got SCCA contingency programs but not NASA.

 

[Ewheels]

So any guesses? 3R full slick? Shame they've got SCCA contingency programs but not NASA.

It's sill early. They might squeeze NASA in if asked nicely.

 

[TMSBOSS]

Since all tires are not created equally. I would be insterested to see if the 315’s would fit in a stock S197 wheel well.

 

[302BOB]

. I would be interested to see if the 315’s would fit in a stock S197 wheel well.

Might be a little on the tight side if you ask me....................

 

[bob]

priced like hoohoos so unless obviously faster who wants to do all that testing again? Not me!

I do not understand what's wrong with GY. They have in the past made dot-r and then never developed the market and went away. There are going to need to be benefits to get people to switch off hoohoos. But I would not mind seeing a price war to bring the tire costs down. We are getting killed out there.

 

[Dave_W]

I would be insterested to see if the 315’s would fit in a stock S197 wheel well.

From https://www.racegoodyear.com/tires/pdf/Goodyear_Sports_Buyers_Guide.pdf (pg 8 - DOT Radial) for 315/30-18 on 11"
Avg. Dia.: 25.6, Section Width: 12.5, Tread Width: 12.4*, 26.2 lbs.
Hoosier A7 315/30-18 on 11"
Avg. Dia.: 25.6, Section Width: 12.5, Tread Width: 11.8*, 25.6 lbs.
*Note: Tire Rack has a specific methodology for measuring the tread width they publish. You can compare tread widths for tires that Tire Rack measures, but different manufacturers may use different methods for the numbers they publish. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=201

 

[blacksheep-1]

I'd wait and see if they win any races first. They are clearly trying to move in on Hoosier in the touring classes, but you don't want to be the one doing the beta testing.

 

[TMSBOSS]

Curious to see if this is related to their new NASCAR tire. With Cup going to a 18” wheel next year, this could be their way to blend the two very similar products/markets.

 

[racer47]

Since all tires are not created equally. I would be insterested to see if the 315’s would fit in a stock S197 wheel well.

Hoosier 315/30R18 fit inside stock body work. Takes a little work up front and nothing in the back.
Also 295/30R18 on 10" wheels fit front and rear, no effort and rotatable with 40-43 mm offset. You give up about an inch of tire width but they are still damn fast and sticky.

 

[Bill Pemberton]

The one thing that they might do is slow down the buyers for those Indiana tires ----HooHoos in 315/30/18s are $435 a donut , now!! At $379 , some folks will be willing to try the Goodies just to save a little moolah! Fan of A7s and R7s , but they have sure seen a very dramatic rise since boughti by Conti!

Pushing $224 a set savings will pique someone's interest.

 

[67GTA]

HooHoos in 315/30/18s are $435 a donut , now!!

That must be a netted down “good guy” price. Published price on Tire Rack and Track Day Tire is now $459/ea

 

[Bill Pemberton]

......as mentioned , rapid rise. They apparently went up while I was typing , haha!

 

[Mad Hatter]

We are the Hoosier reps down here in Chile and the prices have gone up a lotdue to the rising prices in commodities like steel etc.... which I can believe it as steel prices have gone nuts recently. I just got offered a set of 300/680-18 Chinese slicks to try out for special price of US$900, pretty serious competition if they are half decent. Ha!! they can't be worse then the old Conti slicks!!

 

[Dave_W]

......as mentioned , rapid rise. They apparently went up while I was typing , haha!

Are Hoosiers the new commodities investment opportunity? Will a TV ad featuring William Devane be coming soon? "I'm William Devane, and I buy my gold, silver, and Hoosier tires from Rosland Capital."

 

[racer47]

The one thing that they might do is slow down the buyers for those Indiana tires ----HooHoos in 315/30/18s are $435 a donut , now!! At $379 , some folks will be willing to try the Goodies just to save a little moolah! Fan of A7s and R7s , but they have sure seen a very dramatic rise since boughti by Conti!

Pushing $224 a set savings will pique someone's interest.

Yeah the cost of tires sucks. But handicapping your $30k, $50k or more racecar to save a couple hundred sucks worse.

 

[blacksheep-1]

Let me think about this..
Run the cheapos in practice,
Qualify on Hoosiers, (and to make sure your suspension changes work).
Run race 1 on scuff Hoosiers (qualies)
Run race 2 on Sticker Hoosiers.

Sell the Hoosiers, and buy another set of cheapos.. and 2 sets of Hoosiers
repeat for the next race.

If I figured this out right, you should get a "free" set of Hoosiers about every 4th or 5th race, as opposed to running all Hoosiers.
The cheapos are sacrificial.

there's a couple of caveats there, you will need to get your qualifying done in 4 laps, 1 out, 2 serious laps and a cool down/ check psi.
so don't piddle around, get it done.
and run the qualies in the longest of the 2 races since they are scuffs.