New Hoosier Track Attack Pro - 200TW

[KazarS197]

Looks like quite a few sizes that will work for us. 125 more than 3Rs for 305/19. Curious how they perform and last.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/hoosier-track-attack-pro

 

[KazarS197]

I know it's not a Mustang but can't complain about such an early review.

 

[Mistaricky]

One cool thing to note is that these tires are made in the good ol USA right in Indiana. That may be a reason for the higher cost. If anyone is a fan of supporting the Us instead of overseas this could play a roll.

 

[blacksheep-1]

I'll try to get the skinny on these

 

[67GTA]

I was wondering what happened to these. The SW Hoosier rep was at our fall NASA Willow Springs event last year and said they would have an all-new 200TW out in April. Better late than never - looking forward to feedback.

 

[KazarS197]

Article with info from Hoosier

Hoosier Releases TrackAttack Pro: Game Changing 200TW Tire

Hoosier has unveiled the ultimate 200 treadwear tire: appropriately named the TrackAttack Pro and available in 46 sizes.

www.streetmusclemag.com

 

[biggsy]

So someone can correct me if I’m wrong but assuming these are given the same mod factor as A052s for NASA TT3 classing…
Going from a R7 to TAPro allows driver up to ~48HP increase or up to 300lb decrease

 

[Bill Pemberton]

I just hope it gets classed with the A052 or RE71RS, since I can not run a R7 and stay in TT3 , currently.

 

[Mistaricky]

These tires are looking to be very light weight. A 285/30/18 RE71RS weighs in at 27.8 pounds , which is pretty light for an 18 in that size, but the Hoosier in 295/30/18, a taller and wider tire, comes in at 23.2 pounds. That is a 4.6 pound difference in weight PER TIRE.

for reference a 205/50/15 RT660 will weigh in at 19.6 pounds.
and a 225/45/15 RT660 will weigh in at 22.3 pounds.
These 18" tires are basically the same weight as a 15"

An AO52 in 295/35/18 will weigh in at 27.6 pounds and that is usually seen as the lightweight 200tw

 

[Bill Pemberton]

I just got a blanket email from NASA touting the new TA Pro, which makes me believe biggsy is on the right track and it will be classed with the " Hot " 200 TWR tires. If so I am super pleased I waited just a bit to order another set of tires as this could be my go-to for 2025 in TT3!!

 

[stevbd]

These tires are looking to be very light weight. A 285/30/18 RE71RS weighs in at 27.8 pounds , which is pretty light for an 18 in that size, but the Hoosier in 295/30/18, a taller and wider tire, comes in at 23.2 pounds. That is a 4.6 pound difference in weight PER TIRE.

for reference a 205/50/15 RT660 will weigh in at 19.6 pounds.
and a 225/45/15 RT660 will weigh in at 22.3 pounds.
These 18" tires are basically the same weight as a 15"

An AO52 in 295/35/18 will weigh in at 27.6 pounds and that is usually seen as the lightweight 200tw

Wow that's crazy. In a 305/30/19 it is 5 lbs lighter than a 3R! Awesome.

 

[KazarS197]

TAP ( Track Attack Pro) Page

Home

www.trackattackpro.com

I'm going to do a @Bill Pemberton. Ha

It's looking like the tires in the same class will be playing "TAP"s when they are compared to the Track Attack Pro!

 

[flyhalf]

These tires are looking to be very light weight. A 285/30/18 RE71RS weighs in at 27.8 pounds , which is pretty light for an 18 in that size, but the Hoosier in 295/30/18, a taller and wider tire, comes in at 23.2 pounds. That is a 4.6 pound difference in weight PER TIRE.

for reference a 205/50/15 RT660 will weigh in at 19.6 pounds.
and a 225/45/15 RT660 will weigh in at 22.3 pounds.
These 18" tires are basically the same weight as a 15"

An AO52 in 295/35/18 will weigh in at 27.6 pounds and that is usually seen as the lightweight 200tw

Good info here!
I'm still trying to figure out where do they fit.
First
Too early to say something about speed.
According to the test in the video
They are 1sec slower than r7 in 2 min roadcourse track.
So probably 1.5 to 2 sec slower vs A7 on the fast lap.
This is not that far from a052. And probably similar to 3R (when on temp)
My gut (and some preliminary numbers)says it is close to 3R.
Hence 0 mod factor for nasa which means no one will use it.

Scca banned them already cause the thread depth is too small (5 32)
So it would remain gridlife and gta. (And local time attack)

The music could change if the mod factor is 1.0 in nasa. And definitely a test to do
But man they are more than A7.
And last the same.

Ale

 

[Bill Pemberton]

All good points and it remains to be seen if they were testing the waters like the Yoke A052s did with their initial run of tires at a similar tread depth. It did not fly with SCCA , so hence we got a reformulation, and there is a possibility Hoosier could do the same especially with so many sizes still in the process of introduction.
I would have to bet NASA will place the tire in with the A052 and RE71RS since they mailed all the members such a resounding email notice, but we will have to see. It is not a 180 TWR tire like the Cup2, so it. might sneak in since the Michelin is well under a 7/32nd standard.

I think we will all agree the determining factor may simply be price because many of us can get a set of RE71RSs at a much lower price and they are almost always included when Bridgerocks has a Sale --- knocking off another 70-100 dollars and more if one has one of their credit cards.

More data out and 2025 looks to be a banner year for " Tire Wars " with the TA Pro, the new Toyo R ( which may get a super favorable factor to run in NASA ), a rumored change in the CR-S V2 ( likely just BS as it was based on why the DOT had issue with the tire ) , and a new RT660 with a redesigned carcass , banding, and tread design. Supposedly the Falken has the same compounding , yet it will be interesting to see new tests with some much else changed.

Choices may also mean we could see some stabilization in pricing and maybe even a lowering or more Sales. It has happened a few times in the past , so let's all hope the intense competition helps us all out.

 

[Mike_FL]

Chin track days has a discount code

 

[Mistaricky]

All good points and it remains to be seen if they were testing the waters like the Yoke A052s did with their initial run of tires at a similar tread depth. It did not fly with SCCA , so hence we got a reformulation, and there is a possibility Hoosier could do the same especially with so many sizes still in the process of introduction.
I would have to bet NASA will place the tire in with the A052 and RE71RS since they mailed all the members such a resounding email notice, but we will have to see. It is not a 180 TWR tire like the Cup2, so it. might sneak in since the Michelin is well under a 7/32nd standard.

I think we will all agree the determining factor may simply be price because many of us can get a set of RE71RSs at a much lower price and they are almost always included when Bridgerocks has a Sale --- knocking off another 70-100 dollars and more if one has one of their credit cards.

More data out and 2025 looks to be a banner year for " Tire Wars " with the TA Pro, the new Toyo R ( which may get a super favorable factor to run in NASA ), a rumored change in the CR-S V2 ( likely just BS as it was based on why the DOT had issue with the tire ) , and a new RT660 with a redesigned carcass , banding, and tread design. Supposedly the Falken has the same compounding , yet it will be interesting to see new tests with some much else changed.

Choices may also mean we could see some stabilization in pricing and maybe even a lowering or more Sales. It has happened a few times in the past , so let's all hope the intense competition helps us all out.

In regards to Falken, they were testing their compound mid week at streets of willow. I'm not sure what they were testing exactly or how it went. But they were there.

 

[Bill Pemberton]

The tire is supposed to have the same compound, they mentioned that over and over and over, so it probably has changed , ha. The main thing is the interior structure has been done differently as well as the tread pattern. It will be interesting to see how they really shake out!

 

[TeeLew]

The tire is supposed to have the same compound, they mentioned that over and over and over, so it probably has changed , ha. The main thing is the interior structure has been done differently as well as the tread pattern. It will be interesting to see how they really shake out!

If you put a different construction on the tire, it really doesn't matter if the compound changes. Tire companies always say that so you aren't scared of the difference. Don't kid yourself, though, there's going to be a difference. It can be very big, even with the same compound.

 

[Bill Pemberton]

TeeLew,
As you can tell I agree with you as I sarcastically noted the fact that the Falcon guys noted over and over the compound had not changed that is was likely so that it had. Heck, over the years there was often compound changes throughout the year. Back in the past Century I remember getting a set of Yokes for the Solo Nationals and other drivers were given another compound --- both different from what was available from Tire Dealers.
Hoping the new Falken tire is a bit quicker as they have a cornucopia of tire sizes !

 

[TeeLew]

TeeLew,
As you can tell I agree with you as I sarcastically noted the fact that the Falcon guys noted over and over the compound had not changed that is was likely so that it had. Heck, over the years there was often compound changes throughout the year.

Ya, I've run in situations where a particular batch code on the tire that was supposed to be identical was important. My 2 cents was just to remind that even if they were completely honest and the compound really didn't change, you could still have a significantly different tire. But, ya, if they're that adamant that it didn't change, then for sure it changed, lol!