Oil pump upgrade?

[Mad Hatter]

For a regularly tracked Boss with only a tune and LTH's as far as the engine goes.... Would the CJ oil pump setup be a wise upgrade?? or would the stock unit be ok. I have over 32,000 miles so far on the car.

the one I was looking at is "Ford Mustang Ford Racing Billet Steel Gerotor Oil Pump" part number...MPN# M-660050-CJ

 

[ArizonaBOSS]

Yes. Do that ASAP. That is what I run.

@captdistraction just lost a motor due to stock OPG failure.

 

[captdistraction]

yes. Get that.

I've had an issue with a MMR pump and more recently with the factory gears. They can last 3 minutes or 30 years, but its a gamble for a road course car. $650 is cheap vs 5-11k engines.

 

[Mad Hatter]

Yup, I guess that goes under the Christmas tree. Now the Wife just asks "what are you getting yourself this time for Christmas?" The set of R7"s will b harder to explain!

 

[Fabman]

Do it.

 

[ArizonaBOSS]

 

[Grant 302]

Other Peoples Money Spent. Good day at TMO. ;D

 

[noldevin]

Do you guys think the whole pump is necessary, or just the gears?

 

[F.D. Sako]

The gears are what pump the oil. Unless you mean the housing?

 

[BigTaco]

Get the Ford Performance assembly and sleep soundly. ArizonaBoss runs this and puts it to the test on a regular basis.

This part is too important to to risk improper fit/function. The Ford Performance unit is the only one I have seen on the market that is pressure/flow tested. Just my opinion....

 

[Mad Hatter]

I imagine the instalation is much easier then swapping gears?

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[ArizonaBOSS]

http://iihs.net/fsm/?dir=828&viewfile=Oil%20Pump.pdf

The torque steps on the pump itself are critical. The timing chain stuff all seems intimidating but if you follow the directions it's actually very easy.

 

[ford20]

Jeebus, $600+! I would just get the gears at that point since the TSS gears are $385.00 and put them in yourself. From what I was able to find the bolts on the oi pump housing are torqued to 90 in/lbs. also, I believe the oil pump bolts may be TTY bolts since you have to torque them an additional amount of degrees.

 

[steveespo]

Cheap insurance. I am planning on this mod along with CJ cam swap soon.
Steve

 

[captdistraction]

If you listen hard enough, you can hear the "snap" of my wallet's back breaking at 1:31

https://youtu.be/T5PMKSxqeVI

Watch the little gauge on the left on the center stack.

 

[steveespo]

I was watching on the phone so did not hear it. But do you have the pro comp gauges that light up red when low or high limit settings are hit? It doesn't look like it. Should get them for oil pressure and coolant temp at least. They grab your attention.


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[captdistraction]

I was watching on the phone so did not hear it. But do you have the pro comp gauges that light up red when low or high limit settings are hit? It doesn't look like it. Should get them for oil pressure and coolant temp at least. They grab your attention.


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Those gauges don't have a very bright alert (speedhut brand gauges, I need to upgrade lines or get something like the pro-comps) In this case the driver had no idea (not me, though its absolutely just as likely that I'd not see the alert or be able to stop in time). Obscured from view is the racecapture tablet, but it doesn't provide a bright enough alert, but I can trigger an external LED. So the gameplan is to put a couple LED's on the steering wheel column bracket for critical warnings.


My point being is just the factory gears are a gamble when pushing an engine hard.

 

[steveespo]

Yeah after seeing your experience I'm finally convinced. I got my CJ pump yesterday. Cool thing is it actually has it's own engraved serial number CM-890 is mine. They must somehow match gear sets to housings to increase the flow rate.
As far as the warning, I was thinking that if the driver was able to see the bright warning then maybe he could have clutched it and shut it down before the oil starvation damage occurred. From your other posts it didn't appear that debris damage occurred.
Steve

 

[Grant 302]

Damn. That gauge was painful to watch.

I would like to see what you come up with for a dash warning light.

I've said to people that a pressure gauge isn't 'needed' on track because you don't have or take the time to look at it, and that a big warning light is all you'd need...and even then it's just to tell you you're done.

 

[ArizonaBOSS]

If you listen hard enough, you can hear the "snap" of my wallet's back breaking at 1:31

Watch the little gauge on the left on the center stack.

Good lord that was disheartening