PCV Catch Can System Design

[jpt3]

Hello all

I'm writing seeking some help. I've posted before about a friend who's car I've been working on with him. This winter we finished a motor build and had the car tuned on a chassis dyno. It made about 480 horses on a 93 octane tune.

We got her to the track last weekend and she ran fantastic but got into trouble. After about ten minutes on track started smoking a little blue smoke out of the tail pipe. After we came into the pits had a little oil dripping. After some investigation we found that there was oil in the cold air intake and the air filter was soaked in oil. We then realized that the oil was over filled so we took out a bit more than a quart then went back out after cleaning things up.

Went out again and the same thing. We were thinking perhaps there was a ring issue or head gasket issue as a result of increased crank case pressure. He got home and did leak down test and compression test and all are normal! The tuner said sometimes these motor need a more robust catch can system. After researching a little I did find some photos of cars with beefier systems like this.


So what do you guys know about these systems and what would you recommend we install?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Jake

 

[302 Hi Pro]

Take a look at the Watson Racing / Peterson Can system. It is standard equipment on Ford Race Program vehicles.

It will eliminate any oil from entering the IM.

https://shop.watsonracing.com/MUSTANG-5-0-S197-S550-CATCH-CAN-BREATHER-2005-2017-p/wr-pcvcankit.htm

Good Luck and let us know if this solves the oil issue.
302 Hi Pro

PS: Nice looking Mustang, please post more pics.

 

[jpt3]

That looks like a nice system!! Is this type of thing common?

He bought the car last year and goal is to do an AER event this year. Here is a quick video of the first dyno pull. It was a short pull but the thing is a beast.(I tried but it won't upload)

 

[Fabman]

Same problem here.
I made a baffled breather tank and later added another sump to it.
Things are roughly under control now.

 

[mnmike59]

I use Bobs and I Think its best. imo

 

[TymeSlayer]

I use and like the Peterson system. Easy to install, reasonably priced and it does the job.

 

[VoodooBoss]

We've covered this in-depth in the thread below.

https://trackmustangsonline.com/threads/different-oil-separator-installations.880/

 

[jpt3]

We've covered this in-depth in the thread below.

https://trackmustangsonline.com/threads/different-oil-separator-installations.880/

Thanks for this. I guess part of the reason I started this was to make sure we were on the right path. It seems too simple. Also why is it so bad when before it wasn't an issue. Yes the car does make 100 wheel HP more so perhaps that's enough of a difference. I don't know...

Thanks

Jake

 

[mnmike59]

We've covered this in-depth in the thread below.

https://trackmustangsonline.com/threads/different-oil-separator-installations.880/

Holy Smokes, 20 pages worth!

 

[TMSBOSS]

A bad PCV valve can cause this. Always open and oil will pass almost freely.

 

[k98dave]

X2 on PCV valve being part of the issue, always find it best to start with the little things and work back. A lot cheaper too.

 

[jpt3]

Is there a way to check if a pcv valve is bad?


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[TMSBOSS]

Replace it. Cheap part.
You can check for vacuum resistance or simply change it.

PCV Valve - Ford (4L2Z-6A666-BA) $17.87 from Ford

or

Auto Zone $9.99.

 

[jpt3]

Replace it. Cheap part.
You can check for vacuum resistance or simply change it.

PCV Valve - Ford (4L2Z-6A666-BA) $17.87 from Ford

or

Auto Zone $9.99.

This sounds good. We will replace it then fab up a catch can. The Watson one is back ordered... of course it's track season so no time to delay!!!

 

[TMSBOSS]

Search for some of the threads on the subject and you can find the part numbers for each item in the Watson system. Then build it.

 

[jpt3]

Search for some of the threads on the subject and you can find the part numbers for each item in the Watson system. Then build it.

I'll look more specifically. I swear I suck at searching...

 

[TMSBOSS]

https://trackmustangsonline.com/thr...breather-for-you-boss.4357/page-6#post-101014

Try this one. It's a good start. Then search Peterson breathe and such.

 

[302 Hi Pro]

One thing I can report, is that my engine oil stays cleaner, longer with my then "BMO" custom Peterson crankcase vent can.

Zero oil vapor in my IM and zero burnt oil carbon deposits in my intake valve. Glad I installed it early in my U-Code's life.

No oil vapor fumes at all, (per Wifie), and maintenance clean out is every 2 years, or about 10,000 miles.

Very happy,
302 Hi Pro

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[BigTaco]

Out of all the systems/options, the Peterson is the only one that completely removes all oil vapor from the intake. The others just catch some of it. Some do it better that others; the Ford Performance is by far the best designed and truly engineered of the online systems.Ron Ewert, the same engineer that worked on the 2016 Cobra Jet power plant, really sweated the details from the screen design to the lid gasket. Tons of testing as well.

 

[ArizonaBOSS]

@jpt3 yes, the Watson-style system is very common if you are seriously tracking the car. I have one on my race car and it works well. Just spend the money and never worry about it again.