Tires and Wheels Upgrade, what the best?, options listed..

Discussion in 'Brakes, Wheels and Tires' started by Moaz Elzahrawey, Jan 27, 2019.

  1. Moaz Elzahrawey

    Moaz Elzahrawey TMO Beginner

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    I spent lots of time trying to find the right tire and wheel size for my car, I'm not an engineer and not even experienced.. So, I need your help..
    I'm thinking on this combo:

    Staggered Setup :

    Front: 19x10” with 285/35-19 tires
    Rear: 20x10.5” with 305/30-20 tires


    Or,
    To Go with Squared (4 corners):
    20x10” with 285/35-19 tires


    My wheels am planning for
    https://www.stage3motorsports.com/M147200065-40-2016-Mustang-Niche-Essen-20-10-M147-Matte-Black.html

    FYI, I'm not professional driver, and I track
    (80% weekend course tracks, once or twice a month)
    (10% drag which is once a month or even once every two months) and
    (10% night cruising in the city).

    So, what is the best to go with, am already having KONI along with many things modified in my suspension.
     
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    VoodooBoss Rick Moderator

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    Are looking for a track, street or combo setup? Are you planning any suspension modifications?
     
  3. Moaz Elzahrawey

    Moaz Elzahrawey TMO Beginner

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    80% track and rest as normal street cruising..
    Already have many things modified in my suspension, koni's, sway bars, lower/uper arms..etc.
     
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    Then I'd look at 18" wheels in 18x11 and run 285/295/305/30/18 tires. Is this on a Boss or GT?
     
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    Moaz Elzahrawey TMO Beginner

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    My car is GT with brembo Pckg..
    While i was navigating the forum here, I found the pledging option with Apex racing,

    Wheels : Front and rear (Squared) : EC7 19x10.0" ET40 from Apexraceparts
    Tires : Front and Rear (Squared) 275/35-19 Federal RS-RR

    What do u think ?

    Mods: Already having full KONI suspension with all uper/lower arms and sway bars.
    Brakes : OEM Brembo 4-Pistons (GT brembo Pckg)

    The question is : Is there any special requirements like spacers, studs, special nuts or anything has to be ordered, or this combo will be direct fitting?
     
  6. TMSBOSS

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    Wheels. A good choice. I signed up for a second set of Apex wheels.

    Tires. Not familiar with the Federal tires.

    I needed spacers with my 18x11" Apex wheels. Someone else will need to help you with the 19" wheels. If you do add spacers, add a good set of studs. ARP is the most popular. For a bit more, you can swap out the front hubs with Ford Performance hubs. They have the ARP studs already installed.
     
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    @APEXRaceParts can help you with the spacer requirements. I like your choice.
     
  8. Mad Hatter

    Mad Hatter Gotta go Faster

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    Just a thought,.... 295/30-18's fit nicely on 18x10 wheels... The ARP hardware is always a good idea... the OEM studs fail often with track work.
     
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    Norm Peterson Corner Barstool Sitter

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    OP should have mentioned that his 2014 has been supercharged to about 640 HP (which for a novice should probably be dialed back for the track duty).

    I think he needs to look at front wheels at least 10.5" wide, and preferably 11". Possibly with rear wheels 1/2" or even 1" wider than that, depending on the specific tire sizes selected (which probably ought to be staggered in terms of section width).


    Norm
     
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    Mad Hatter Gotta go Faster

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    !!! Important point!!! 275's would be a waste of tire!
     
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    APEXRaceParts Race Proven, Street Approved

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    19x10" ET40, when paired with a 275 or 285 width tire, will not require any spacers. You can run 19x11" ET52 in the rear as well without a spacer, but anything wider than a 10" and 285s will warrant the use of a spacer on the front, unless you buy our 19x11" ET26 SM-10 wheel and slap a 295-315 on it. The only downside to that is it is a front only fitment so no rotations possible, but if you were going to run a staggered setup anyways, not the end of the world.

    Given that your car is supercharged, it wouldn't be a bad idea to run more tire, especially out back. That said, even 19x10" all around with a sticky 275 (like the Federals are) will be sufficient for your use.

    - Cory
     
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    I love Apex rims , have gotten three sets in just over a year, but I would go with Madhatter, the 275s are just too skinny. Not a fan of the Federals so I would chat with Apex on one of the other tires they sell in my humble opinion.
     
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    I'm a CCW fan all day long, but since I've gotten to using some Apex wheels, I've kind of warmed up to them, they are not as robust as the CCW that are used in endurance racing, however, they seem to be a decent value for the money. With regards to 275 size tire, please do not do that, I've spent a large amount of time in January trying to get 275s to live in a 40 minute race, on a mustang. ..just don't
    With regards to the Federal tire, they are incredibly inexpensive, I think they are made in China or someplace, but the guys that have used them, really seem to like them a lot..not sure of their longevity when abused but at some point, you get what you pay for. They sort of remind me of Khumos, which were a decent value for the money.
     
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    Key issue is the Federals only go as wide as 275...........and I am completely behind your statement on that width. Had CCWs on one of my Vipers and they are a stellar rim, but since I am not doing Endurance Racing, I have been quite pleased with the Apex rims, and more so that they are there with support and fitment knowledge for Mustang Maniacs.

    White PP2, Blacksheep 1 is like EF Hutton..............when he speaks, we all listen!!

    PS - Federal Tires are made in Taiwan.
     
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    Daegoba TMO Intermediate

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    Glad to see Apex still so heavily involved in our message boards. Thanks for that.
    I have a 2013 Boss 302 lowered on the Ford Boss springs, and am looking to dip my toe into track days. I am, and will continue to daily my Boss, but I enjoy an aggressive wheel and tire fitment without heavy modification to my car.

    It looks like you answered my question above, but just to be clear: Will the EC-7 in a 19 x 10(40) front and 19 x 11(52) rear be a direct fit for my car? No wheel studs, spacers, or anything else needed, correct?

    Thanks again for being so supportive and helpful to all of us. I plan on being a customer for life.
     
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    Hi, yes you are correct. Assuming you stick with the tire width recommendations above, there are no spacers necessary for the 19x10" ET40 front and 19x11" ET52 rear.

    - Cory
     
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    Thanks!!

    I inquired about an order a couple days ago. Looks like it’s time to break out the CC!!
     

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