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With shoes like that, instead of heal/toe, would that be big toe/little toe? ;D
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PeteInCT said:With those you can hit the clutch, brake and gas all at the same time ! ;D
CaliMR said:I remember some car magazine calling it Italian Tapdancing because Lambo pedals are hard to do it on. I don't know why you would need to do it on an automatic though
jim woodruff said:CaliMR said:I remember some car magazine calling it Italian Tapdancing because Lambo pedals are hard to do it on. I don't know why you would need to do it on an automatic though
Here is somthing for you guys to think about and do for me. I heal and toe but it is hard because of a knee problem. My WC car we had a bike brake cable attached to the shifter and the other end to the throttle body,you just used the grip for the throttle. I made down shifting and trail braking sweet. Here is the problem, How do you do it with the fly by wire and all the throttle sensors. Beats the hell out of me. I thought of a push reostat.
TMSBOSS said:Could avoid messing with the electronics by connecting the cable mentioned above to the throttle pedal?
rom said:I double clutch heel toe everywhere even in town... I used to use the easy method now only use the real man's method ( ahahah) so here is your definitive HEEL TOE methods :
there a 2 methods:
1) the REV MATCH ONLY heel toe method :
- brake with right toe keep it there
-push in clutch
- blip throttle while shifting to lower gear
- release clutch
-> that only gives you a smoother transitional feel ie, not jerky downshit
= NOT TRUE double clutch heel toe.
2) the DOUBLE CLUTCH heel toe method :
- brake with right toe keep it there
-push in clutch
- shift to neutral
- LET GO off clutch while blipping throttle with right heel
- push in clutch
- shift to lower gear
- release clutch
= THE REAL METHOD, takes longer to master, and you'll look like your have ants in your pants ( legs are dancing)
but this method rev matches AND SAVES THE SYNCHROS on older gear boxes.
now we do not need that real method since its not like an old gear box that needs this method to save on wear and tear...
with that said it is a GREAT HABIT to have since you can then drive anything with that: vintage race cars, 18 wheeler trucks .. anything.
thats what I do , and its extremely addictive when performed right and gives enormous satisfaction and pride XD
and it keeps you real busy , you never get bored even at 35 mph
PS 1: you dont need special pedals, just the right shoes flat bottom, flexible with good grip and feel. I tried converse but actual feel is terrible and soles are too soft, I use so unknown von dutch low tops whatever, and sometimes simple low tops pumas. you want a shoe that lets your ankle flex as blip with heel while braking with toe requires flexing ( feels like spraining your ankle but youll get over it)
PS 2: at first you will feel that it takes to 30 seconds to shift, but practice makes perfect and soon enough, you'll be ' dancing ' too .
hope this helps, and practice on a beater car first !
Grant 302 said:TMSBOSS said:Could avoid messing with the electronics by connecting the cable mentioned above to the throttle pedal?
Nice solution! Not sure where I would connect it... I don't know what the throttle signal is, but I think a parallel bypass with a rheostat and moment switch N/O might do the trick.
rom said:I double clutch heel toe everywhere even in town... I used to use the easy method now only use the real man's method ( ahahah) so here is your definitive HEEL TOE methods :
there a 2 methods:
1) the REV MATCH ONLY heel toe method :
- brake with right toe keep it there
-push in clutch
- blip throttle while shifting to lower gear
- release clutch
-> that only gives you a smoother transitional feel ie, not jerky downshit
= NOT TRUE double clutch heel toe.
2) the DOUBLE CLUTCH heel toe method :
- brake with right toe keep it there
-push in clutch
- shift to neutral
- LET GO off clutch while blipping throttle with right heel
- push in clutch
- shift to lower gear
- release clutch
= THE REAL METHOD, takes longer to master, and you'll look like your have ants in your pants ( legs are dancing)
but this method rev matches AND SAVES THE SYNCHROS on older gear boxes.
now we do not need that real method since its not like an old gear box that needs this method to save on wear and tear...
with that said it is a GREAT HABIT to have since you can then drive anything with that: vintage race cars, 18 wheeler trucks .. anything.
thats what I do , and its extremely addictive when performed right and gives enormous satisfaction and pride XD
and it keeps you real busy , you never get bored even at 35 mph
PS 1: you dont need special pedals, just the right shoes flat bottom, flexible with good grip and feel. I tried converse but actual feel is terrible and soles are too soft, I use so unknown von dutch low tops whatever, and sometimes simple low tops pumas. you want a shoe that lets your ankle flex as blip with heel while braking with toe requires flexing ( feels like spraining your ankle but youll get over it)
PS 2: at first you will feel that it takes to 30 seconds to shift, but practice makes perfect and soon enough, you'll be ' dancing ' too .
hope this helps, and practice on a beater car first !
Absorootly agree on the double clutch. For me, I have to blip a little higher to make it single rev. I used to double rev, but that's only because I learned to do it years ago on my brother's 4 bangers. Double rev is nicer for show since you can hear it...Single rev done right, you can't tell it's double clutch unless you're taking video.
At the track, I have a bad habit of only using the double clutch on the 3-2.
And rom, your typo above gave me a good laugh this morning.
Also forgot to mention about the clutchless shifting that you can upshift too, but you have to wait for the revs to come down on their own to enter the higher gear. Takes way too much time, but maybe this is the solution to all the lockout issues. har har.
rom said:ahahah Grant , I didnt spell check myself, it is pretty funny but was unintended, I guess Im no Jay Leno
you bring about double Revving (double blipping), that's yet another method I didnt mention because I never learned that one, I was explaining double Clutching (you end up depressing the clutch twice for every single downshift )
I've always been curious about the double revving because it seems to be what's going on in the famous Bullit Chase. the chase being over recorded I didnt know what to think of that , other than maybe he had a slow gear box and engine inertia was so great that he had to blip it twice while looking for the lower gear (Im only guessing)
can you explain it ?
PS: if theres a way to make my downshiFts even more so complicated, Im interested
rom
CaliMR said:...
.....but I tend to use my pinky toe in this car.
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darreng505 said:Good stuff guys.
So can someone post each gear rev/rpm ranges please? So I know when to complete a shift post-blip? I'm still new to this motor/gearbox. It's very high-revving for a V8.