Trying to Learn squat....

[Mad Hatter]

Its actually not that low, must a tad taller then P springs. the BMR lca bracket has three holes and I am in the top hole now.
The LCA angle is now just a tad more towarfs Antisquat then the OEM position.

I think the top BMR lca position is about a inch and a half from stock but will measure it again.

 

[Mad Hatter]

Just wanted to share this pic.... I know its a tiny lift on the inside wheel but on the way!



Finally got some squat but the R7s where cycled out so next time!!!

 

[Grant 302]

Nice. Proof at last. Nice work!

Now, I wouldn't change a thing but the tires.

 

[DocB]

I would. Try lowering the rear of the RLCA by one hole and see how you like that.
OR better yet, go to the extreme and lower it all the way down to the lowest hole, and see how you like that.
If it feels like too much rear grip, raise it up one hole and try that.
Your lap times OR your ass will tell you which is best for you.

 

[Mad Hatter]

Lol...Done dat!!! Started at the bottom hole and now worked my way up to the top hole..... Over the last five years!! My BMR top is not has high as the Ford racing setup though.

 

[Mad Hatter]

off to try the setup again next week. Only change will be more camber up front thanks to some camber bolts and new R7's in 295/30-18. Will try for -3 degrees this time around. Still driving to the track.

 

[TymeSlayer]

I know at -2 I sense a bit of what I can best describe as shimmying in the front end at straight, high speeds down the highway to the track. I'm assuming going to -3 will increase this sensation? Man, I need to buy that enclosed trailer I keep threatening to buy.

 

[Mad Hatter]

With what toe do you leave it at??? I had it at -2.4 and it felt fine at XXX km/hr on the highway

 

[Mad Hatter]

Just a quick update on the squating progress..... The car has almost no oversteer unless I get really silly on the throttle with cold tires. But I did not take into account the amount that the rear would lower under throttle and shaved me rear slicks down too cloth on the 320/650-18. The car is very easy to drive but I find it a little slower and with a pesky understeer. Will try stiffening the rear shocks and raising the rear a little... Maybe soften up the front bar a tad.



At least consistancy and not going off the track is paying off....



thats me in the Santa suit..... But my better half is going to get me when she sees where I am looking ......

 

[Grant 302]

Congrats on the WIN!!!

...and *BUSTED*!

But I did not take into account the amount that the rear would lower under throttle and shaved me rear slicks down too cloth on the 320/650-18.

And that's one of the reasons why I've hesitated making the change on my blue car. It would undo a lot of what I like about the current rear ride height.

 

[ArizonaBOSS]

NICE

 

[VoodooBoss]

Congratulations!

My understanding is most fast drivers prefer a little oversteer compared to understeer. They don't like "tight" cars.

@blacksheep-1

 

[Coz]

But my better half is going to get me when she sees where I am looking ...

Why would she be upset at you checking out that gentleman's fine hat? You'd be "Mad" not to.

 

[Mad Hatter]

Truly fine hat!

 

[Mad Hatter]

Congratulations!

My understanding is most fast drivers prefer a little oversteer compared to understeer. They don't like "tight" cars.

@blacksheep-1

Thanks Guys!!

Funny how adding squat added so much extra traction to the rear, but took away the traling throttle oversteer and steering with the throttle. Now to walk it back a bit.... unsquat!

 

[Grant 302]

Now to walk it back a bit.... unsquat!

lol. Crazy talk!

Will try stiffening the rear shocks and raising the rear a little... Maybe soften up the front bar a tad.

Raise the rear a bit because you *have to*...but focus on improving the front grip over taking away rear grip to fight the understeer. I'd suggest softening the front bar and maybe lowering the front a bit first.

 

[Mad Hatter]

Ok, no crazy talk,,... sorry about that... was drifting.... But! I do have a set of 500# springs.... tempted to follow the @ajaquilante recipe. I have a 600# springs up installed up front now. But definitly dont want to do too many things at the same time again!

 

[Grant 302]

If you have a lot of adjustment to go stiffer on the front bar, I'd think trying the 500s could make some sense, but I think it's a bit too far. My thoughts are that it could cause more issues as discussed in your "What does this picture say??" thread. Maybe if the weight and weight distribution were similar. What were the last corner weights on your car? If you have the time to try it out, why not? If you don't have the time, I'd try a softer front bar setting first.

 

[Grant 302]

Ok, no crazy talk,,...

Where would this thread be *without* crazy talk?!

 

[Mad Hatter]

If you have a lot of adjustment to go stiffer on the front bar, I'd think trying the 500s could make some sense, but I think it's a bit too far. My thoughts are that it could cause more issues as discussed in your "What does this picture say??" thread. Maybe if the weight and weight distribution were similar. What were the last corner weights on your car? If you have the time to try it out, why not? If you don't have the time, I'd try a softer front bar setting first.

Thanks for the reminder! Went back an re-read the article.