What tires do you recommend on Apex 18x11 wheels

Discussion in 'APEX Race Parts' started by Jeffery Dempsey, Feb 7, 2019.

  1. Jeffery Dempsey

    Jeffery Dempsey TMO Intermediate

    Messages:
    35
    Likes Received:
    14
    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    Hello

    I am thinking about getting out of my 19 inch wheels and tires, and moving to 18x11 Apex EC7. I have Cortex suspension with the offset front struts.

    I currently run 19x11 and 305/30-19 RE71R.

    Thanks for your input...
     
  2. Mad Hatter

    Mad Hatter Gotta go Faster

    Messages:
    2,252
    Likes Received:
    817
    Joined:
    May 6, 2013
    Location:
    Santiago, Chile
    R7's in 315/30-18.....o_O Mine are on thier way... looking forward to trying them out!! really like my Apex EC7 wheels
     
  3. Jeffery Dempsey

    Jeffery Dempsey TMO Intermediate

    Messages:
    35
    Likes Received:
    14
    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    What are you doing to gain additional camber on the rear suspension?
     
  4. Jeffery Dempsey

    Jeffery Dempsey TMO Intermediate

    Messages:
    35
    Likes Received:
    14
    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    I was looking at the Proxes that are available in 305/35/-18. The car is driven on the street as well.
     
  5. Mad Hatter

    Mad Hatter Gotta go Faster

    Messages:
    2,252
    Likes Received:
    817
    Joined:
    May 6, 2013
    Location:
    Santiago, Chile
    Sorry I have Chariot suspension in the rear.
     
    Bill Pemberton and Grant 302 like this.
  6. Mad Hatter

    Mad Hatter Gotta go Faster

    Messages:
    2,252
    Likes Received:
    817
    Joined:
    May 6, 2013
    Location:
    Santiago, Chile

    Really liked the Michelin Super Sports.... they still come in 295/35-18, which is a great size.
     
  7. Grant 302

    Grant 302 OPM Spent: $587,402 Moderator

    Messages:
    6,421
    Likes Received:
    1,494
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2011
    Location:
    In the OC
    How are you going to use the car? How much track vs. street?
     
  8. Jeffery Dempsey

    Jeffery Dempsey TMO Intermediate

    Messages:
    35
    Likes Received:
    14
    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    More street than track at the moment. My alternative would be to pick up another 2 Project wheels in the 19x11 and have two setups.
     
    VoodooBoss likes this.
  9. Bill Pemberton

    Bill Pemberton TMO Addict

    Messages:
    2,104
    Likes Received:
    1,013
    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2011
    Location:
    Blair, Nebraska
    If you go want to go wide there are some 200 Treadwear Rated tires out now thanks to the CAM series within SCCA's Solo ( autocross) series. You would need to go with a 25mm spacer up front , but then you have a track car and an autocross machine , all in one. Of course I have two sets of Apex rims, so your last choice sounds sensible to me too, ha.
     
  10. Bill Pemberton

    Bill Pemberton TMO Addict

    Messages:
    2,104
    Likes Received:
    1,013
    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2011
    Location:
    Blair, Nebraska
    Sticky ---315/18s in Hoosier R7s , BFG R1s and Toyo RRs

    200 Treadwear - Falken 615Kts, and BFG Rival 1.5S in 315/18s also.
     
  11. DaveW

    DaveW TMO Intermediate

    Messages:
    13
    Likes Received:
    10
    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2017
    Location:
    St. Louis
    What is the problem with the RE71? That is a pretty formidable setup for many types of usage. Cons would be heat tolerance on track and noise/ride, but pro is very good speed and feel.

    DaveW
     
  12. Mad Hatter

    Mad Hatter Gotta go Faster

    Messages:
    2,252
    Likes Received:
    817
    Joined:
    May 6, 2013
    Location:
    Santiago, Chile
    Nothing at all!! Its just that Bridgstone does not seem to make them in wider sizes for 18". I think they just go to 285/35-18 which would be a waste of a 18x11 wheel.
     
  13. DaveW

    DaveW TMO Intermediate

    Messages:
    13
    Likes Received:
    10
    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2017
    Location:
    St. Louis
    IMO, at best, a 315-18 BFG Rival would be equal to a 305-19 RE71 setup in autocross. Worse on street. No idea on heat tolerance. I don't think the BFG 1.5 will really change that equation too much, certainly not the street part.

    Now, 18x12 with a 335 BFG might be something to think about....

    DaveW
     
    VoodooBoss likes this.
  14. Coz

    Coz TMO Race

    Messages:
    238
    Likes Received:
    175
    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2018
    Location:
    Philly Metro Area
    Given that you live in Austin, TX do you drive it in the rain? If so, then consider the the MP4S or Continental ExtremeContact Sport. Both available in 295/35ZR18.

    If you only drive it when dry then the ones Bill recommended are great.
     
  15. APEXRaceParts

    APEXRaceParts Race Proven, Street Approved

    Messages:
    363
    Likes Received:
    457
    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2017
    Location:
    Bay Area, CA
    Hi Jeff, thanks for reaching out to us, although in this case "us" is the whole forum apparently. Love all the support fellas!!

    18x11" ET52 is a great square setup for track use, but to be honest the street tire selection is a little lacking when compared to 19x11" options. Now, if you have found some 305/35-18 tires that you like, then 18" wheels are the way to go due to reduced costs and weight when compared to their 19" counterparts. The Toyo R888R in 305/35-18 would be a good option for someone who primarily tracks the car but does drive it on the street once in a while. The Hankook RS-4 in 295/40-18 is another one of my favorites for HPDE/light street use. They won't have the ultimate grip that the R888R can offer, but they will be much more consistent throughout a 20 minute session and last MUCH longer as well. The value from the RS-4 is really hard to beat in time-trial events.

    If you are doing time trial events and need a ringer 200tw tire, I would use the 315/30-18 BFG Rival S. Similar grip to the RE71R, but in a useful size for an 18x11" wheel.

    - Cory
     
  16. Bill Pemberton

    Bill Pemberton TMO Addict

    Messages:
    2,104
    Likes Received:
    1,013
    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2011
    Location:
    Blair, Nebraska
    As you can see we all have our preferences and we may have all wandered back and forth since you did mention you might get a second set of Apex rims. Bit pricier , but that would be my choice , since then you have a choice of the BFG, Toyo, or Hoosier DOT Comp rubber. In fact ,that would also open up a set of used World Challenge Pirelli slicks that many of us have run. The BFG Rival was thrown in there as there is a strong fight between the RE71R and it , and folks have a very distinct preference for it or the Bridgestone for autocrossing. With the Solo Nationals 60 miles down the road from my home , I can attest to very pointed opinions on which is best , but some of my friends at TireRack have told me the BFG is a bit better on a road course since it does not get greasy as fast as the RE71 ( frankly there are a few more fans of the RE71r if you are mainly an Autorosser ). Since you mentioned road course use and street driving , that was my reason to throw out this alternative. Both of these two 200 Treadwear tires are considered the Kings of the Autocross circuit, but....................get a second set of rims and put a set of Hoosiers or the other DOT Comp tires and really use that 18x11 Apex. Just my humble opinion and plenty of other good ones.
     
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2019
    Dark Horse and Mad Hatter like this.
  17. VoodooBoss

    VoodooBoss Rick Moderator

    Messages:
    20,055
    Likes Received:
    2,495
    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2010
    Location:
    90 Miles East of Sonoma Raceway
    My vote is two separate sets of wheels/tires, one for the street and one for the track. Keep your 19's for the street and 18's for the track. For your track wheels I'll also throw out the NT-01 for a moderately fast tire that wears well. Very budget friendly. But SC2, Trefeo R, Goodyear 3R, R7's, and RE-17R are all faster on track.
     
    Bill Pemberton likes this.
  18. Bill Pemberton

    Bill Pemberton TMO Addict

    Messages:
    2,104
    Likes Received:
    1,013
    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2011
    Location:
    Blair, Nebraska
    Madhatter , VoodooBoss and I all like the second set idea, and not be contradictory, but the Goodyear 3R and Trofeo have tires that are only 275 and 295 sectional widths respectively in an 18. Would also add the Toyo RR and the BFG gforce R1s, which are also faster than the NT01s - and only slightly behind the R7s in most reports. Many of my buddies who run R7s think the Toyo RRs are just a smidge slower , except in a long race, where they don't get greasy as soon as the Hoosier- hence they stay more consistent. They also report they last a bit longer , but all the serious DOT Comp tires will have shorter track life than the higher treadwear rated street/comp. type rubber.
     
  19. Mad Hatter

    Mad Hatter Gotta go Faster

    Messages:
    2,252
    Likes Received:
    817
    Joined:
    May 6, 2013
    Location:
    Santiago, Chile
    I just dented my credit card with eight 315/30-18 R7s......... Wth luck they will last the whole season!
     
  20. Jeffery Dempsey

    Jeffery Dempsey TMO Intermediate

    Messages:
    35
    Likes Received:
    14
    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    I do not bring the car out of the garage when it is raining. I have a 2002 F350 with 7.3 diesel that enjoys inclement weather.
     
    TymeSlayer likes this.

Share This Page