Harness bars are a joke.
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roketman said:Nope, I have not gotten my L.S. yet .CRY,CRY !I feel like a little kid.I want it now!! I’m so anxious it’s killing me !I am in Ma. we get everything last!
I was told June delivery at the latest.I’m hoping for May.
I plan on having harnesses ,a diff cooler and dot 4 ready to install on my delivery date.In the owners manual they recommend a diff cooler and dot 4 brake fluid for track use.I am recommending the belts!
What set up have other Mustang ,Cobra owners used for a harness set up?I am not interested in a cage or roll bar .I would like a nice harness bar since there is no back seat .
Anyone else in Ma. waiting for a L.S.?
Thank you
Roketman
Great info. What's a CG Lock?Boss_302 said:If you are only going to a couple of track days, keep your car stock and use a “CG Lock”.
Boss_302 said:Here's a link to the CG Lock Web site; really these things DO work!
http://www.cg-lock.com/autocross.html
From the CG Lock Site...................
The CG-Lock gives you about 80% of the holding power of a full race harness.
Why do people use a harness?
You don't need to "hang on" when driving hard...you can keep your feet light on the pedals and your hands light on the wheel for better driving control, faster reactions, and less fatigue.
You are "one with the vehicle"...you can sense the vehicle movement better, react sooner, and "feel" your way through the tricky spots more easily.
Your safety is increased.
Unfortunately, most of us do our autocrossing in our daily drivers with standard three-point automotive seat belts, not racing harnesses. Once the CG-Lock is installed, you pull up on the shoulder harness of your seatblet, and the lap belt portion gets "racing harness tight" and stays as tight as you want until you release it!
Simple, But what a difference it makes.
"The only cheaper way to increase performance is to shed weight"
Improves the performance of the DRIVER, not the car!
Your hips are your body's center of gravity. Tightly help hips provide the first two of the three benefits of a full harness as described above. As for the 3rd benefit-increased safety- the CG-Lock is not sold as a safety device, but it has been designed and fully tested to not interfere with a seat belt's safety.
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Great info and I'll be checking out the CG LOCK.
I've avoided a harness without rollover protection for the same reason. I haven't tried a CG lock yet, but know guys that use something similar. I would be interested in trying one, but haven't for the same reasons as the harness without at least a roll bar cage. I know it says it doesn't interfere with the seat belt's safety, but couldn't it still force you into an upright position in a rollover? That's been my only hesitation in getting one..... I'm thinking just going from the leather standard seats in my GT500 to the bolstered Recaro cloth seats alone will be a huge improvement, but I understand that being fastened into the seat provides more stability. I'd appreciate any additional thoughts on this.MrBonus said:I've always stuck with a CG Lock for the above reasons. I never wanted to go to a full cage on my weekend car and harness bars and harnesses without full rollover protection are a disaster waiting to happen.
This device appears to keep your butt firmly planted in the seat but you should be able to move your torso around. I haven't thought much about rolling a car but I'm sure it happens. I raced karts for two seasons and when I got into that sport I was told they never flip. Right. I don't think there was a single race I attended where at least one person didn't get upside down. I'm sure it happens even at HPDE events too. I'm also interested in more thoughts on this subject.cloud9 said:I know it says it doesn't interfere with the seat belt's safety, but couldn't it still force you into an upright position in a rollover? That's been my only hesitation in getting one..... I'm
There's one more piece of plastic that we decided to remove. The driver's side duct is a little snug and couldn't be moved as far away from the tire as the passenger side. This piece of plastic is held in by three plastic push pins but it blocks the hose from being moved adequately inboard to prevent rubbing on the tire on chock to chock turns. We removed it and retied the hose with zip ties.cloud9 said:Here are some pics of the surgery required for the brake cooling kit:
No it's different. In this photo I pointed to the areas we trimmed out of there to clear room for the hoses. We removed two triangular shaped pieces of plastic not quite the diameter of the hose using a tin snips.5 DOT 0 said:Thanks for the photos. Does the other side have the same cover?
cloud9 said:Yea I thought about cutting it like you did but wasn't sure if I could remove enough and still attach it securely. Any issues you think with having it removed? I didn't see any real concerns. The instructions certainly could have been clearer. I ran into some of the same issue on my GT500. Did you end up cutting the wires out where you attached the hose to the backing plate?
cloud9 said:Yea I thought about cutting it like you did but wasn't sure if I could remove enough and still attach it securely. Any issues you think with having it removed? I didn't see any real concerns. The instructions certainly could have been clearer. I ran into some of the same issue on my GT500. Did you end up cutting the wires out where you attached the hose to the backing plate?
Right. I absolutely agree with that. I don't think it's right that I'll have to buy replacement tubing probably by summer's end. I guess whoever has the first failure gets to find out where to source the correct size hose.4pipes said:cloud9 said:Yea I thought about cutting it like you did but wasn't sure if I could remove enough and still attach it securely. Any issues you think with having it removed? I didn't see any real concerns. The instructions certainly could have been clearer. I ran into some of the same issue on my GT500. Did you end up cutting the wires out where you attached the hose to the backing plate?
Yes, I did cut the wires, but I do t feel good about it. I think that will be a fatigue/tear point down the road. There's no way those two diameters are compatible!
cloud9 said:Right. I absolutely agree with that. I don't think it's right that I'll have to buy replacement tubing probably by summer's end. I guess whoever has the first failure gets to find out where to source the correct size hose.4pipes said:cloud9 said:Yea I thought about cutting it like you did but wasn't sure if I could remove enough and still attach it securely. Any issues you think with having it removed? I didn't see any real concerns. The instructions certainly could have been clearer. I ran into some of the same issue on my GT500. Did you end up cutting the wires out where you attached the hose to the backing plate?
Yes, I did cut the wires, but I do t feel good about it. I think that will be a fatigue/tear point down the road. There's no way those two diameters are compatible!