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DSC Magnaride Controllers - Issues, Tunes, Experiences?

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Whats the latest on these? Most all the posts here are 4-5yrs old. Appears Cortex is no longer offering the controller or their tune. I see them pop up for sale often but reading DSC Sports site they appear to only support the original purchaser. I’ve also seen feedback that failure rate is rather high. Steeda offers it but it’s locked out from customer tuning.

Considering one to go along with the Steeda Dual Rate springs on our 21 Mach 1 HP. The Steeda controller locked out with their matching calibration is probably good enough for what I’m doing. However the wide open controller is appealing.

Are there shared tune downloads available? I saw mentioned the “Billy Johnson” tune but have no idea how to get it.

Thanks, Mike
 
I've had mine installed for about a year now. No reliability issues with it or the shocks so far, and I reflash it a couple of times a month to test settings. Overall it improved my car on both BMR and now Steeda dual rates.

There are a few files downloadable from DSC. They can also advise on what to tweak if you ask. The Billy Johnson tune was for the GT500s, but it may work fine on the Mach1, that's my base file now. The main things that get changed are the overall shock force, and the low/med/high velocity curve. Like having triple adjustable conventional shocks.

Its better as a set and forget, and will give a nice blend of street ride, and track firmness. If you need to make changes between runs or sessions, it requires a laptop tweak.
 
Thanks Stan. Yeah I agree, I’m not looking to spend hours of track time tweaking to perfection. Would rather download a developed tune and leave it alone. I believe the Steeda tune is probably well developed for a Mach with their springs however it’s a locked up box. Probably plenty good for me. However there are a handful of the DSC Sport controllers listed for sale. Those are attractive if I can get my hands on a developed tune appropriate for my car. Trying to reach DSC and confirm I’ll have access and support with a second hand unit.
 
Just installed my Steeda DSC controller yesterday and ran one event with it. I'm also on their dual rate springs and competition sway bars, so the calibration was done for my exact setup. Car feels exceptional but we were on a tight short course so not the best test. Better test will be this upcoming weekend at our usual event site.

Just made sense for me to go with the tune that Bill Johnson developed with Steeda for my exact suspension combo vs trying to figure out one all on my own.
 
Trying to reach DSC and confirm I’ll have access and support with a second hand unit.
What access and support do you expect from them ? Tuner software they have is open to download and pretty sure they won't restrict that from you, there isn't really much support you can get - their base tunes I feel like are pretty bad so I am not sure how much work they actually put into development of Mustang calibrations but they were responsive when I was asking questions after purchase.
 
I did reach DSC support and was told that if the controller was already registered it could not be re-registered to me. A valid registration is required to access tuner files stored on their site. Also it sounds like they have locked those down and are charging per download.

I picked up a Steeda controller. Yes it’s locked but sounds like the tune is fairly well developed for my car. DSC even endorsed the development by Steeda. Good enough for now….

Thanks for the feedback. Mike
 
Just installed my Steeda DSC controller yesterday and ran one event with it. I'm also on their dual rate springs and competition sway bars, so the calibration was done for my exact setup. Car feels exceptional but we were on a tight short course so not the best test. Better test will be this upcoming weekend at our usual event site.

Just made sense for me to go with the tune that Bill Johnson developed with Steeda for my exact suspension combo vs trying to figure out one all on my own.
Just got my car back on the road after all the winter upgrades which included the dual rate springs, comp bars, and the Steeda DSC like yours. I don’t notice any difference between the modes like I did with the OEM controller. The OEM cal definitely felt different even on the street between modes. Haven’t been to track yet but I‘m questioning if this thing is functioning. What’s your experience when switching the Steeda DSC between modes during normal driving?
 
Just got my car back on the road after all the winter upgrades which included the dual rate springs, comp bars, and the Steeda DSC like yours. I don’t notice any difference between the modes like I did with the OEM controller. The OEM cal definitely felt different even on the street between modes. Haven’t been to track yet but I‘m questioning if this thing is functioning. What’s your experience when switching the Steeda DSC between modes during normal driving?
On the street there are minimal changes between normal and sport. In track mode it definitely firms up a lot in transitions. Definitely agree that you don't feel as much difference between modes as stock. With the stock controller it honestly felt like Normal was way under-damped and Sport was only beginning to approach something close to tolerable and Race still felt a little soft.

The Steeda unit feels great in normal and sport but really jumps up in Race.

I will say I did have to jump onto a Skype call with Steeda and DSC to utilize their datalogging software to figure out what was going on with my car, but it's working now and happy to have it on the car.
 
Thanks appreciate the quick feedback. I bought this one used so I was starting to get concerned I bought someone else’s problem. I understand that the Steeda controllers are locked but should I be able to connect a laptop and monitor function or data log ?
 
I will say I did have to jump onto a Skype call with Steeda and DSC to utilize their datalogging software to figure out what was going on with my car, but it's working now and happy to have it on the car.
Getting back to this now that the car “resting” for the winter. What problem were you chasing that necessitated dataloging and a call with Steeda and DSC ?
 
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Getting back to this now that the car “resting” for the winter. What problem were you chasing that necessitated cataloging and a call with Steed and DSC ?
Poor control over bumps and with secondary motions. I think there's a situation with their G-Comfort settings and our cars that results in the vehicle being drastically under damped in those scenarios.
 
It's 2026.

I have an S650.

I was checking in to see if anybody had updated information available on Magneride aftermarket improvements. Technology keeps marching on. Is anybody (DSC?) helping the newest Ford Mustangs keep up?

I don't see any good reviews of the DSC controller for Ford Mustangs searching online, unlike the Corvette guys who rave about it.
 
IMO the DSC is great. If you know what your doing. I have spoken to DSC many times and they are pretty much useless to me. So I talk to a racecar engineer now. Luckily that person is my best friend and I get free advice and calculations.

Here is what I have gathered talking to them and the company that makes the tractive struts for the suspension.
The DSC unit was deigned for the GT350/R & GT500 in the configuration the car comes from the factory. Once you change springs you need to adjust he controller to compensate. When I asked about added aero the tech at DSC basically asked why would I want to do that and upset their calibration. That led me to inquire how can one controller work on three models GT350 / 350R/ & GT500. Short answer was, Most of our customers are happy with the program. Which I could agree with said tech rep. The reason I say this is because I have a spare DSC and put in it my buddy's 350R and I was impressed and for a minutes I though the car had coil-overs in it. My buddy even asked how I was driving his car so well. We both forgort I put the DSC controller in before he let me use his GT350 for a track day. (Yeah good friend and almost passed him in his GT4RS, but he closed the door on that). HA!

Back to the DSC - in general its a good unit and the owner of DSC is a P-car guy. Maybe he moved onto Corvettes. I think the Mustang / Ford Platform was something to have for consumers but not a big revenue source for DSC. (Just my assumption).

The Steeda one is locked because it is programmed for their spring rates. If you go with the Steeda unit I would ask if they calculated aero into it or not.

Even with the full coil over set up the dampers that DSC provided are not set up to handle some stiffer rates. (I don't recall what they are maxed at but I am close to it). After I get some more time on the suspension I plan on sending them to the manufacturer and building to my specs.

Ill update as I learn more on this set up. I must say though. Once you learn it, the adjustments are very impressive.
 
IMO the DSC is great. If you know what your doing. I have spoken to DSC many times and they are pretty much useless to me. So I talk to a racecar engineer now. Luckily that person is my best friend and I get free advice and calculations.

Here is what I have gathered talking to them and the company that makes the tractive struts for the suspension.
The DSC unit was deigned for the GT350/R & GT500 in the configuration the car comes from the factory. Once you change springs you need to adjust he controller to compensate. When I asked about added aero the tech at DSC basically asked why would I want to do that and upset their calibration. That led me to inquire how can one controller work on three models GT350 / 350R/ & GT500. Short answer was, Most of our customers are happy with the program. Which I could agree with said tech rep. The reason I say this is because I have a spare DSC and put in it my buddy's 350R and I was impressed and for a minutes I though the car had coil-overs in it. My buddy even asked how I was driving his car so well. We both forgort I put the DSC controller in before he let me use his GT350 for a track day. (Yeah good friend and almost passed him in his GT4RS, but he closed the door on that). HA!

Back to the DSC - in general its a good unit and the owner of DSC is a P-car guy. Maybe he moved onto Corvettes. I think the Mustang / Ford Platform was something to have for consumers but not a big revenue source for DSC. (Just my assumption).

The Steeda one is locked because it is programmed for their spring rates. If you go with the Steeda unit I would ask if they calculated aero into it or not.

Even with the full coil over set up the dampers that DSC provided are not set up to handle some stiffer rates. (I don't recall what they are maxed at but I am close to it). After I get some more time on the suspension I plan on sending them to the manufacturer and building to my specs.

Ill update as I learn more on this set up. I must say though. Once you learn it, the adjustments are very impressive.
Just so I understand what you are saying, if I order the DSC unit for my Dark Horse, I am essentially getting the S550 calibration they set up for every car from the base GT to the 350 and 350R to the GT500.
 
Just so I understand what you are saying, if I order the DSC unit for my Dark Horse, I am essentially getting the S550 calibration they set up for every car from the base GT to the 350 and 350R to the GT500.

From what I remember - GT and GT350 stock DSC calibrations they used to have available for download were exactly the same (which was easy to verify by looking at them in DSC Tuner) - which tells you they put in very little time in the actual development of these.
My experience with them was that they were pretty useless. They were also seemed to be quite a bit off with what was the max current you could drive into the stock dampers and still see damping change (which I verified myself changing the tables with values way exceeding what they quoted as max).

I haven't driven Dark Horse but they seemed like pretty good cars out of factory. Do you feel like you have an a problem with anything ?
 

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