2025 new car and 2024. Way out of my league.
BEST WAS FORD TAG ON ROLL BAR!!!!
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The tag that I asked for it. MADE ME LAUGH HARD.
You buy this and need to read a manual!!!
wtf

Also stock rear rotors??

I have a DH with the handling pack and except for the high zoot big buck Multimatic caster/camber plates, the adjustable spring/strut and gutted interior it looks pretty much exactly like that car. I thought they might seam weld the race cars but apparently not, the tub must be pretty stout as built. Only thing I don't like about the car is the weight, the thing is a real porker.
It's real value might turn out to be its scarcity, I understand they only built 5,000 of them and supposedly that's it. Time will tell.

JDee said:

I thought they might seam weld the race cars but apparently not

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The pictures above show seam welding to my eye, not just the factory spot-welds. Ford press release also states it has 'select seam welding'.

Multimatic stitched welded all over the car. It's was very fine and hard to see. Not mig not sure on tig. Sure wasn't arch!
Maybe machine stitching ?

More trunk is new car

TA28 said:

Multimatic stitched welded all over the car. It's was very fine and hard to see. Not mig not sure on tig. Sure wasn't arch!
Maybe machine stitching ?

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Watson stitch welding. MiG

mwjscn said:

The pictures above show seam welding to my eye, not just the factory spot-welds. Ford press release also states it has 'select seam welding'.

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Yeah, if you blow the pic up you can see signs of aftermarket welding. But it sure doesn't look like what I thought a pro built car would have, it looks like a 1st year apprentice went at it.

To my eye those welds don't look fabulous. The welding back in the day, even with the crude tools we had back then, was artwork compared to what I see there. And they sure as hell did not stitch weld, all seams were fully welded......I guess "select seam welding" sums it up.
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These cars are produced in volume and likely there is no need or time to weld to that degree, production cars are way stronger now than they were back then so no need to weld the entire seam anymore.

Times have changed I guess.

TA28 said:

The tag that I asked for it. MADE ME LAUGH HARD.
You buy this and need to read a manual!!!
wtf

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If you race any car and don't bolt check it then you are taking huge risks. And I will tell you, there will be something not fully done on that car. We found quite a few.

Nut and bolt is a standard with any racer ! I give you that .
Most of use witnes mark them same as we do tires to see slipad. If a bolt moves off that mark ??

I personally use grade 8 and all steel lock nuts
Over kill but it's my but in it that car

TA28 said:

I personally use grade 8 and all steel lock nuts
Over kill but it's my but in it that car

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Mustangs are metric now but I agree. Funny Watson also paint marked nuts and bolts and we still found things significantly lower than final torque spec.

steveespo said:

Watson also paint marked nuts and bolts and we still found things significantly lower than final torque spec.

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Actually just ran across some technical info on ARP's site about "friction factor" and "preload scatter" where it can take over a half-dozen tightenings before a nut/bolt kind of stabilizes at a consistent stretch & clamping load for a given torque. Looking at the "Installation Preload Scatter Comparison" chart on the Tech page / Installation tab (link below), I'm guessing that dry threads are going to be even worse than the engine oil curve.

JDee said:

I have a DH with the handling pack and except for the high zoot big buck Multimatic caster/camber plates, the adjustable spring/strut and gutted interior it looks pretty much exactly like that car. I thought they might seam weld the race cars but apparently not, the tub must be pretty stout as built. Only thing I don't like about the car is the weight, the thing is a real porker.
It's real value might turn out to be its scarcity, I understand they only built 5,000 of them and supposedly that's it. Time will tell.

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The S650 chassis are definitely stiffer than S550's so not sure what they did in the factory about that but there is a difference. My understanding is Dark Horse R's start life as bodies in white ? I think there is a part number for a chassis.

bnight, I do believe you are correct , they start as a body in white , just like the Boss 302S and R.

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Actually just ran across some technical info on ARP's site about "friction factor" and "preload scatter" where it can take over a half-dozen tightenings before a nut/bolt kind of stabilizes at a consistent stretch & clamping load for a given torque. Looking at the "Installation Preload Scatter Comparison" chart on the Tech page / Installation tab (link below), I'm guessing that dry threads are going to be even worse than the engine oil curve.

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So that's perplexing because some bolts are torqued to stretch and are single use only. I can't remember which ones were that way but I used to carry spare bolts for that reason only.
I don't touch mechanical stuff now, I just take it to the dealer. They abide by the book on torque values and bolt stretch guides because I explicitly told them to ensure that was being done.

Not a bad deal in my opinion