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S550 Cartridge vs Spin on Oil filter?

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Looking at copying the DHR and FP350S oil cooling set up. I know for the GT350, GT500 and Mach 1 Ford used the Cartridge oil filter but went back to Spin on for S650. Is one better than the other? Does one fit better than the other?

I’m partial to the Cartridge/canister set up for ease of oil changes but if the spin on is better then I’ll go with that. Thanks for any insights!
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Notnsure if it is better honestly. In a perfect world I would have mounted a remote filter (wix racing )! But with 2 coolers it doesnt fit (2 coolers for the moment 😊)
Wix is the top standard for racing.
And if u decide to go in that direction I have a lot of components you may use.
 
Looking at copying the DHR and FP350S oil cooling set up. I know for the GT350, GT500 and Mach 1 Ford used the Cartridge oil filter but went back to Spin on for S650. Is one better than the other? Does one fit better than the other?

I’m partial to the Cartridge/canister set up for ease of oil changes but if the spin on is better then I’ll go with that. Thanks for any insights!
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I think @flyhalf and @GAR944 pretty much nailed it. Properly made spin-on's are great for your application.

The whole cartridge thing on the Shelby's arose in 2016 when Fort Performance (as it was known then) realized that dealer tech's couldn't read, and the carefully engineered spin-on filters for the Voodoo would fall off because they weren't torqued to 16-18 ft-lbs like the big label on the end of the filter says they should be.

My belief is that once FP had a cartridge design for the 5.2 block that fit the S550 chassis and cartridge filters (FL2087's) that could handle the higher oil flow from the bigger pumps in the Shelby's, they had no reason to switch back to spin-on's for the GT500. A spin-on would have worked fine on the GT500 (no vibration problems) but changing back would have solved an engineering (and supply chain) problem that FP didn't have, so they kept the cartridge filters.

Coyote engines, on the other hand, never had a vibration problem, so Ford engineers working on the DH series stayed with the spin-ons that have been "normal" (albeit in various different sizes depending on whether it's in a car or a truck) on the Coyote since it was introduced in 2011.
 
I have no idea about your question but these are a control part for our supercar race series.
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I may have a few.
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Lol enough said. Ironic that you bring that up. I’ve been getting more into the supercar series the past few weeks. I watched a Mustang supercar walkthrough and the main person mentioned those filters. I tried to see if they were available here in the states. No luck.
 
I think @flyhalf and @GAR944 pretty much nailed it. Properly made spin-on's are great for your application.

The whole cartridge thing on the Shelby's arose in 2016 when Fort Performance (as it was known then) realized that dealer tech's couldn't read, and the carefully engineered spin-on filters for the Voodoo would fall off because they weren't torqued to 16-18 ft-lbs like the big label on the end of the filter says they should be.

My belief is that once FP had a cartridge design for the 5.2 block that fit the S550 chassis and cartridge filters (FL2087's) that could handle the higher oil flow from the bigger pumps in the Shelby's, they had no reason to switch back to spin-on's for the GT500. A spin-on would have worked fine on the GT500 (no vibration problems) but changing back would have solved an engineering (and supply chain) problem that FP didn't have, so they kept the cartridge filters.

Coyote engines, on the other hand, never had a vibration problem, so Ford engineers working on the DH series stayed with the spin-ons that have been "normal" (albeit in various different sizes depending on whether it's in a car or a truck) on the Coyote since it was introduced in 2011.
Ahh okay. Then that makes sense. Spin on it is. Thank you for the thorough reply
 
For the cartridge filters, Ford stopped producing the FL2087 element with the steel inner core. Now the only ones available are plastic core FL2087A, which have a rep for collapsing at high pressure. FL2087's trade for big money ($60-100) now and are getting rare to find.
 
For the cartridge filters, Ford stopped producing the FL2087 element with the steel inner core. Now the only ones available are plastic core FL2087A, which have a rep for collapsing at high pressure. FL2087's trade for big money ($60-100) now and are getting rare to find.
Interesting. I thought the collapse-prone filter was the original 2017-2018 cartridge filter, the FL2062, that was borrowed from the Ecoboost engine and banished from the spare parts supply chain in 2019. I hadn't heard that the Fl20187A's were doing it too.
 
For the cartridge filters, Ford stopped producing the FL2087 element with the steel inner core. Now the only ones available are plastic core FL2087A, which have a rep for collapsing at high pressure. FL2087's trade for big money ($60-100) now and are getting rare to find.
I believe the amsoil variant EA15K43-EA has a steel core. I put one in my GT350 a few weeks ago and I remember noticing it.
 
Interesting. I thought the collapse-prone filter was the original 2017-2018 cartridge filter, the FL2062, that was borrowed from the Ecoboost engine and banished from the spare parts supply chain in 2019. I hadn't heard that the Fl20187A's were doing it too.
No issues with the FL-2087A here. Been using them since they came out out a couple of years ago on a couple of ‘22 GT500s.
 
I’ve been using the FL500S with no known issues. The FL820 is listed as an upgrade and performance variant.

Looks like the 820 is too big to clear the oil cooler fitting on filter housing of a dark horse. . Heard this on a mach 1 as well as i think they are the same. Darn i just found 7 of them. Should fit on the Bullitt. I’ll know when i do an oil change. I like the idea of a racing style filter on a track car with racing oil viscosity Any equivalent in the skinny FL500?
 
Notnsure if it is better honestly. In a perfect world I would have mounted a remote filter (wix racing )! But with 2 coolers it doesnt fit (2 coolers for the moment 😊)
Wix is the top standard for racing.
And if u decide to go in that direction I have a lot of components you may use.
I was thinking a remote filter might be a good idea.
 

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