Mad Hatter said:

Every time I see (saw..) a competitor show up with some new Michelin slicks, I assumed he was going to be quite a bit faster then usual. I do know that the Michelines are about 1.5seconds faster then a new set of dunlops in the 911 GT3 Cup series where I mooch my used tires from. And the dunlops they castoff with about 10 cycles, are still as fast as a new set of R7's

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Yeah but....A7's are the shiznit. I need something faster than that.

Fabman said:

The problem with cars like mine is that its not really built enough for an AIX car proper, but its too built for a Touring car. (they don't like my aluminum dash) so I'm in a weird place.
SCCA has some issues and so does NASA around here so a lot of us are looking for someplace to land that doesn't require 1000 hp and sequential transmissions to be competitive.
TT is no interest to me, my strength is in battle....outside of that there are plenty of guys who can run fast laps without the slicing and dicing aspect of W2W.
Faster than me by quite some measure. So I guess we'll see what happens.

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I know what you mean, I've been looking for a place to run the TA2 car with some competition that is not the West Coast TA2 series, too much traveling with high entry fees and not a lot of track time. The races are also 75 minutes, which puts a lot of wear and tear on the cars (and me, I'm fat and old!) I'm thinking of adding a little weight and run in NASA ST1, sometimes there are enough cars for the contingencies
to kick in and there always are at Nationals. I'll have to watch the USTCC entries and see how it looks, the rules fit the car better than ST1.

Fabman said:

Faster than A7's?

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Will the A7s hold up over a 30-40 minute race? I know they are fast at the start, but everyone I have talked to says they fall off over the course of the race.

Don Lariviere said:

I know what you mean, I've been looking for a place to run the TA2 car with some competition that is not the West Coast TA2 series, too much traveling with high entry fees and not a lot of track time. The races are also 75 minutes, which puts a lot of wear and tear on the cars (and me, I'm fat and old!) I'm thinking of adding a little weight and run in NASA ST1, sometimes there are enough cars for the contingencies
to kick in and there always are at Nationals. I'll have to watch the USTCC entries and see how it looks, the rules fit the car better than ST1.

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I feel ya on the fat and old part.....the sport is getting tough. Way too pricey and not nearly enough return. Stock cars is the way to go.
There's a 10k to win race at my local track and the regular shows are 4k to win.....and as a 3 time track champion I would be right at home there.
But to start over with a new car and program....ugg. I just don't have the time, energy or the budget.
Lemme go beat up on the road racers one more time so my tombstone can read 7 time champ in car #7.
Maybe that will help get me into heaven, cause that day is getting closer and I'm gonna need a good reference to get in.

Don Lariviere said:

Will the A7s hold up over a 30-40 minute race? I know they are fast at the start, but everyone I have talked to says they fall off over the course of the race.

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Well I'll tell ya....I used to qualify on A7's and race on R7's but towards the end I started running A7's all the time.
I am super easy on tires so I have been able to get away with it. Most of what we ran were 25 to 35 min races.
I just take the lead right away and then sandbag enough to keep the competition in the mirror more often that not so I'm pretty easy on my consumables.
That's what I hated about NASA. I always had to start in the back and I'd burn up all my stuff to just start in the back again. Total waste of time.
SCCA I start in front and only ran as hard as I needed to. USTCC has a similar format where the fast cars start up front.
That's a major draw for me.

But then again, maybe I’ll get smoked and waste my time and money.
Only one way to find out.

Fabman said:

But then again, maybe I’ll get smoked and waste my time and money.
Only one way to find out.

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Not sure if I missed it - did you get your engine torn down? Curious what you found.

67GTA said:

Not sure if I missed it - did you get your engine torn down? Curious what you found.

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Yes, it’s at AED getting refreshed now.
Apparently, while the car was unattended over night, somehow the crankcase mysteriously got handfuls of a foreign substance introduced into it. The result was total destruction of a strong running motor in only 1 1/2 half easy warm up laps. A new factory shortblock has arrived and the heads are being repaired at AFS.
Another reason to race with a new sanctioning body.

Fabman said:

Yes, it’s at AED getting refreshed now.
Apparently, while the car was unattended over night, somehow the crankcase mysteriously got handfuls of a foreign substance introduced into it. The result was total destruction of a strong running motor in only 1 1/2 half easy warm up laps. A new factory shortblock has arrived and the heads are being repaired at AFS.
Another reason to race with a new sanctioning body.

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Woah, that’s some messed up s**t!

67GTA said:

Woah, that’s some messed up s**t!

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Yep.

Looks like 5 to7 cars in class were about the norm.
Hopefully we can grow the class beyond that.

Fabman said:

Yes, it’s at AED getting refreshed now.
Apparently, while the car was unattended over night, somehow the crankcase mysteriously got handfuls of a foreign substance introduced into it. The result was total destruction of a strong running motor in only 1 1/2 half easy warm up laps. A new factory shortblock has arrived and the heads are being repaired at AFS.
Another reason to race with a new sanctioning body.

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It may be time to buy a “Game Camera”. They work in the dark and take pics when they see movement. You never know when the “Two Legged Jackass” may show up again.

Fabman said:

Yes, it’s at AED getting refreshed now.
Apparently, while the car was unattended over night, somehow the crankcase mysteriously got handfuls of a foreign substance introduced into it. The result was total destruction of a strong running motor in only 1 1/2 half easy warm up laps. A new factory shortblock has arrived and the heads are being repaired at AFS.
Another reason to race with a new sanctioning body.

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holy crap... thats way too much. Would not happen even down here at the end of the world.

Fabman said:

Yes, it’s at AED getting refreshed now.
Apparently, while the car was unattended over night, somehow the crankcase mysteriously got handfuls of a foreign substance introduced into it. The result was total destruction of a strong running motor in only 1 1/2 half easy warm up laps. A new factory shortblock has arrived and the heads are being repaired at AFS.
Another reason to race with a new sanctioning body.

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That is unbelievable. Which track and sanctioning body was this with. I would like to know where not to go.

Sounds like a cool class to run in and me thinks you will blow away the competition. Caymans and M3's don't like Mustangs, so maybe get a lock on your hood!!

I hate to say it,but everytime I was with a car in California, we used game cameras... sad commentary

I use one of these when hooking up the trailer. Pretty handy. Very small and lightweight.
Garmin Dash Cam

blacksheep-1 said:

I hate to say it,but everytime I was with a car in California, we used game cameras... sad commentary

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Terrible.... leaves me speechless. living for a large part of my life in a third world country、 am always ready to assume the worst of people. But have to say never lost a thing here in Chile. Often would race by myself, with out a pit crew, and never lost a torque wrench of Gopro etc. Very sad commentary on the state of things if that it can happen in California.

I hate hearing all this. Fortunately, I haven't had any issues leaving my car over night or heard of any at Pitt Race but has me thinking of getting a locking gas cap. The problem is what if someone glues the key slot. I looked for the entire locking door assembly but NLA for a 2012.