kitsune1324 said:

...I've read previous discussions about the water temp sensor location and people seemed to be split on either adding the sensor to the water neck on the driver side next to the OEM oil filter location. I want to run a combo temp/pressure sensor and the overall easiest spot is the side of the block. Will I have accurate enough readings there vs up towards the top of the engine/near the water pump?

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For the side of the block, I'm assuming you mean the plug in the water jacket above the oil filter housing. This location is the first place that sees the return water from the water pump; it's probably the coolest water overall directly in the block.

bauern said:

For the side of the block, I'm assuming you mean the plug in the water jacket above the oil filter housing. This location is the first place that sees the return water from the water pump; it's probably the coolest water overall directly in the block.

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Yessir, that's the location I was referring to! That makes it seem less desirable to measure from, any ideas on what a better location would be? I was thinking about tapping the water neck like mentioned in other posts however I wasn't sure if that would be the best place to put a pressure sensor. I guess I could potentially tap that and also run a separate pressure sensor on the side of the block

The water neck is the best most accessible location to get temps. It's still more like a blended average as it is a collection point for both sides but usually the best we can do.

It's a bit tight on the gen 3 without the boss intake but I may be able to tap it at an angle on the drivers side

what was the final verdict on timing chain, guides, tensioners, etc.?

Aus said:

what was the final verdict on timing chain, guides, tensioners, etc.?

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I'll grab you the list of parts I purchased for it today, I'm planning to get everything installed over the next couple weeks. Here's email correspondence I had with FRPP with FRPP's response in bold.

Here is my current parts list, please let me know what you think I should add or swap:

• GT350 primary timing chains - M-6004GT350PC
• Boss 302 tensioners w/ primary guides - M-6266-M50B
• Tensioner arms - CR3Z-6K255-AOEM
• Cam phaser filters - 9L8Z-6C683-A

What I'm trying to figure out:

1. Is there a recommended secondary timing chain for road racing? No, the sec tensioners in the Gen3 engine will work.
2. Is the GT350 primary timing chain the best option? Yes, it’s “pre-stressed” so no further stretching will occur.
3. Is there anything else I should replace while I'm already there? I'm replacing the Oil pump gears and crank sprocket with ones from Boundary. Oil pump gears and crank sprocket are good ideas. One other change would be the GR3Z-6256-A intake phasers. These are a “low-leak” phaser allowing for better stability at higher RPM.
4. Are the bolts reusable or will I need new bolts? Replace the cam phaser bolts and damper bolt. Boss tensioners require a longer bolt that what is used in Gen3 engine.

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Primary timing chains: M6004GT350PC
Secondary timing chains (x2): BR3Z-6268-A
Boss 302 Timing Chain tensioner kit: M-6266-M50B
Camshaft Seal (x2): FT4Z-6C262-A
Timing chain guide: JL3Z-6B274-B
Timing chain guide: JL3Z-6M256-A
Cam intake phaser sprocket: GR3Z-6256-A
Cam phaser filter: 9L8Z-6C683-A
Intake cam phaser bolts: ARP 256-1003
Exhaust cam phaser bolt (need two): JR3Z-6279-A
Harmonic Balancer Bolt: ARP 156-2502

New seals (front main, rear main, timing, water pump, etc)

I believe that's everything I purchased, let me know if you have any questions!

Edit: Added the exhaust phaser bolt and clarifications

A bit of a progress update, I've ordered all parts, cleaned the engine, changed the oil pump and gears, timed the engine (sanity checking again later today), and today I will be installing the AED crank scraper and the now clearanced oil pan. If everything goes well I should be installing the engine into the car later this week.

One thing I should have noticed before getting into everything is that the exhaust phasers on the Gen 3 use a single bolt (JR3Z-6279-A). I ended up getting 3 as I messed up the torquing process on the driver side..whoops! I highly recommend getting the tool to lock the cams out (keep in mind the gen 3 may use a different lockout tool than the earlier gens), my wife and I struggled to torque the passenger side but the drivers side was simple as can be because of the tool. Keep in mind that to install the lockout tool on the passenger side you will need to rotate the passenger side cams slightly so the tool can slide on. Once you've installed the new secondary timing tensioner, intake cam filter, chain, and torqued everything down on the passenger side you will need to rotate it back to the correct position to make timing easier.
I missed grabbing pics with the front cover off but the engine is looking as healthy as can be with no sparkles at all in the oil pan, just some used oil. The drivers side looks brand new while the passenger side has a healthy golden glow.

There's a whole lot of work ahead bit if anyone has any questions or would like to see something specific please let me know!

Have you ever finished a job and then found you used the wrong bolt? In my previous post I mentioned that I screwed up the torquing process for the driver side exhaust phaser bolt. Imagine the surprise on my face when my wife hands me the new, still in packaging, exhaust phaser bolt I purchased to replace my mistake... Yupp. I disassembled the valve covers and timing cover once more, replaced the exhaust phaser bolt and torqued it correctly, and got the engine put back together once more. At least I grabbed a few missing pictures this time.






The alternator, engine wire harness, clutch/flywheel, and bellhousing are now installed and looking great!. Some new issues did appear after installing the bellhousing:

1. The oil pan completely blocks the clutch cable, leaving only ~1" of space between where the clutch cable sits against the bellhousing and the back of the oil pan.
2. The passenger side upper exhaust tube makes contact with the bellhousing's starter pocket (the sphere where the starter nose cone sits).

Looking at the oil pan, I would have to significantly modify it to work with a clutch cable so I'm looking at hydraulic options. I've reached out to Silver Sport Transmissions ad Modern Driveline to see if they have a kit they would recommend to go with the TKX and would fit my setup or if I am going to have to put together something custom.
The exhaust will be an easier fix, I probably just need to get a real metal mallet or an exhaust dimpler from Summit (https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-dinger1750).

Parts combo I'm having issues with:
BBK Coyote Swap long tube headers (16340)
Ford Performance Road Race oil pan (M-6675-M52RR)
Quicktime TKX bellhousing (RM-6081)

I've realized over the past couple of weeks how massive of a project this swap is but I'm so excited to dig in deeper! For now I'm going to switch back to finalizing the wiring, painting the brake calipers, putting in a new hydroboost (initially a v6 with a vacuum booster, the hydroboost I put in has always felt a smidge squishy), cleaning the engine bay, and figuring out how to best mount the control pack. Lets see what all I can get done before I can properly mount the headers!

A question for anyone reading, does anyone happen to know how the thickness of the OEM Ford exhaust gasket? The gaskets alone won't solve my problem but the spacing they provide will at least help a smidge.

kitsune1324 said:

The exhaust will be an easier fix, I probably just need to get a real metal mallet or an exhaust dimpler from Summit (https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-dinger1750).

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Just smash the header for clearance.