S197 3V Fabman's build; How did we get here? Build Thread

[Fabman]

 

[Fabman]

 

[Fabman]

 

[Fabman]

Here we go…..case in point.
Out of the 60 plus cars that qualified in our group, Dave and I qualified 10th and 11th overall. You’d think we’d start in the 5th row but no. We were in like the 43rd and 44th starting positions. First and second in our Class yes, but our class started near the end of the group for Fock sakes. And, there was a split start so all the other classes started way way ahead of us and we had to chase them down……Does anyone else do grid this way or is it just a local thing?

 

[racer47]

I've never run NASA but thats just stupid. Its bad enough that there is huge range of cars including Legends?! Thats a 3/4 scale, 1200 lb car on track with 4000 lb tanks. Then lets mix up the grid based on attendance?? Really, I've never heard of that. I ran SCCA for 10 years and always started based on qual time, no inverts, no fast class to the back, no split starts, nothing like that at all.

I remember when NASA started. I was running SCCA at the time and NASA promised to be the end all be all of road racing, fix all of SCCA's problems, race less classes with more cost contained cars, lower entry fees, etc. The only beneficial thing that happened is that they sanctioned races on lesser known tracks that SCCA ignored. But then they also came up with a whole new set of rules and cars that don't cross over well into SCCA or IMSA. The power to weight thing might be ok too.

Here, watch some of this you'll feel better.

Its the Slinger Nationals, 24 super lates on a 1/4 mile and not one car got lapped. Several crashed but they were all flyin' door to door bumper to bumper for 200 laps (12 car invert btw). Skip to 19:00 to see the race ending battle.

Like the late, great Dick Trickle once said....."Racing at Slinger is like a jet fighter in a gymnasium"

 

[Fabman]

I've never run NASA but thats just stupid. Its bad enough that there is huge range of cars including Legends?! Thats a 3/4 scale, 1200 lb car on track with 4000 lb tanks. Then lets mix up the grid based on attendance?? Really, I've never heard of that. I ran SCCA for 10 years and always started based on qual time, no inverts, no fast class to the back, no split starts, nothing like that at all.

I remember when NASA started. I was running SCCA at the time and NASA promised to be the end all be all of road racing, fix all of SCCA's problems, race less classes with more cost contained cars, lower entry fees, etc. The only beneficial thing that happened is that they sanctioned races on lesser known tracks that SCCA ignored. But then they also came up with a whole new set of rules and cars that don't cross over well into SCCA or IMSA. The power to weight thing might be ok too.

Here, watch some of this you'll feel better.

Its the Slinger Nationals, 24 super lates on a 1/4 mile and not one car got lapped. Several crashed but they were all flyin' door to door bumper to bumper for 200 laps (12 car invert btw). Skip to 19:00 to see the race ending battle.

Like the late, great Dick Trickle once said....."Racing at Slinger is like a jet fighter in a gymnasium"

YES! That looks just like my home track.
THIS right here is how I got so good in traffic.
Every road racer should do some time on a short track, the skills learned here are positively invaluable.
As for the how NASA does grid here in Norcal, its pretty much "When in Rome do as the Romans do"....I just find it very odd and frustrating.

 

[Bouncing Soul]

Here we go…..case in point.
Out of the 60 plus cars that qualified in our group, Dave and I qualified 10th and 11th overall. You’d think we’d start in the 5th row but no. We were in like the 43rd and 44th starting positions. First and second in our Class yes, but our class started near the end of the group for Fock sakes. And, there was a split start so all the other classes started way way ahead of us and we had to chase them down……Does anyone else do grid this way or is it just a local thing?

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AFM does it for motorcycles, a Bay Area club. If you don’t know bikes it might not be so obvious but there’s some classes that are similar to that:

AFM Racing - Race Season Schedule

Provisional Race Season Schedule - 2024

www.afmracing.org

no experience gridding/racing here in FL other than folks gridding up in advanced at HPDE that I lap in 3-4 laps (which I’ve *never* seen in motorcycles, and I’m not that fast in a car!).

 

[Frank.JD.Perez]

nasa norcal kinda has their own local rules that are different than nation wide rules. the grid thing was annoying though so

 

[PaddyPrix]

I mean, you can't believe everything you read on the internet, but I'll make an exception this time.

The Ones To Watch at the 2022 NASA Championships - NASA Speed News Magazine

The 2022 NASA Championships are notable for a couple of reasons. It’s taking place at WeatherTech Raceway Laguna Seca, one of the nation’s premier road courses. It’s also notable because this event sold to capacity in short order. If you wanted to register, you had to be quick, otherwise you...

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[racer47]

I don't know..... They might make him start last, facing backwards.

 

[Mad Hatter]

An AMC Javelin!! that must be fun.

 

[Fabman]

I mean, you can't believe everything you read on the internet, but I'll make an exception this time.

The Ones To Watch at the 2022 NASA Championships - NASA Speed News Magazine

The 2022 NASA Championships are notable for a couple of reasons. It’s taking place at WeatherTech Raceway Laguna Seca, one of the nation’s premier road courses. It’s also notable because this event sold to capacity in short order. If you wanted to register, you had to be quick, otherwise you...

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Where did you see that?
Edit: I never read that stuff….thanks for sharing.

 

[Fabman]

An AMC Javelin!! that must be fun.

It’s badass….a 700 hp monster with aero that makes my car look like a Miata.

 

[Fabman]

 

[Fabman]

I mean, you can't believe everything you read on the internet, but I'll make an exception this time.

The Ones To Watch at the 2022 NASA Championships - NASA Speed News Magazine

The 2022 NASA Championships are notable for a couple of reasons. It’s taking place at WeatherTech Raceway Laguna Seca, one of the nation’s premier road courses. It’s also notable because this event sold to capacity in short order. If you wanted to register, you had to be quick, otherwise you...

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I wonder how they got that picture....somebody's been snooping TMO or Facebook I suppose.
Frank took that picture himself so they had to steal it off the web. How odd.

 

[Fabman]

LoL.

 

[Frank.JD.Perez]

pretty much ^

 

[PaddyPrix]

I wonder how they got that picture....somebody's been snooping TMO or Facebook I suppose.
Frank took that picture himself so they had to steal it off the web. How odd.

I think that's the reason they didn't say anything about me, all my pictures are of a broken down piece of shiznit, and they can't use a picture of Patrick Stewart with a firearm.
(well that, and my inability to drive)

 

[Bill Pemberton]

The best part about that picture is notice what Speedy Sal is wearing?!

 

[Fabman]

I think that's the reason they didn't say anything about me, all my pictures are of a broken down piece of shiznit, and they can't use a picture of Patrick Stewart with a firearm.
(well that, and my inability to drive)

LOL.