My motor blew up......now what?

[JeffV8]

I never thought about an OEM Gen 3 but the cost savings are pretty attractive. I just wonder if they are available. Might have to rethink this.

Yes they are available.

 

[JeffV8]

This won't help:

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I have been waiting since September 19 for my Aluminator short block. The trucker strike had nothing to do with the delay then.

 

[Fabman]

I bought the GT500 pan, pump and pick-up.........that should fall under "done right" I would think? Was also planning to add an Accusump. What about a crank scraper??

Yes, from crank-scraper.com and a good pump and oil cooler with -12 lines.

 

[Fabman]

You’ll also need their modified windage tray. These are key items to engine survival. I outline all the mods, parts and my reasoning in my build thread. If you copy what I did you should get similar results. I went through great pains to insure smooth unrestricted oil flow outside the motor and careful oil control inside the motor.

 

[docs302]

Gen 3 short block is only $2,150 from Tasca. Do all Gen 3 have 12:1 compression??

 

[Fabman]

Gen 3 short block is only $2,150 from Tasca. Do all Gen 3 have 12:1 compression??

Yes, make sure it is a mustang shortblock and not an F150

 

[Mad Hatter]

If you go this route. Make sure you order these https://www.crank-scrapers.com/coyote.html ASAP.... they can take quite a while. Fabman warned me and yes they can take a fair amount of time to ship. I suggest calling. repeatedly...

 

[bauern]

I have been waiting since September 19 for my Aluminator short block. The trucker strike had nothing to do with the delay then.

Almost all, if not all, connecting rods in this price range are forged in China, then finished in the USA. All those ships parked offshore and the backlog of containers going back are causing the delays.

 

[Scootsmcgreggor]

@Fabman it looks like the crank scraper is bolted to the windage tray? How does that work since the mounting holes for the windage tray have a bit of wiggle room? Seems the scraper clearance needs to be fairly close, how do you know where the scraper ended up relative to the rotating assembly if the windage tray could be fore/aft left/right a bit depending on how it all bolted up? Maybe only to be installed on an engine out of a car when you can control the windage tray location precisely?

 

[JeffV8]

Almost all, if not all, connecting rods in this price range are forged in China, then finished in the USA. All those ships parked offshore and the backlog of containers going back are causing the delays.

I have found many places with the Manley 14042r-8 in stock.

 

[Fabman]

@Fabman it looks like the crank scraper is bolted to the windage tray? How does that work since the mounting holes for the windage tray have a bit of wiggle room? Seems the scraper clearance needs to be fairly close, how do you know where the scraper ended up relative to the rotating assembly if the windage tray could be fore/aft left/right a bit depending on how it all bolted up? Maybe only to be installed on an engine out of a car when you can control the windage tray location precisely?

The scraper does not bolt to the windage tray, it bolts to the bottom of the block, but I'm not sure exactly which holes as that was done by AED. I used the Teflon scraper where you custom fit the scraper to your exact engine so the clearance is close to zero for maximum windage reduction.

 

[JeffV8]

My Manley rods arrived today new crank coming Monday and Mahle piston are being shipped out Monday. My new block has been shipped out from Summit racing in Texas. It’s amazing the deal you get buying a Aluminator short block from from Ford Performance , but I can’t wait any longer.

 

[docs302]

What about buying the OEM Gen 3 short block then replacing the stock rods with forged pieces then putting everything back together? I have a shop that can do it. Even if it adds $1500 to the cost it's still less than the Aluminator by a grand and I have the good rods.

 

[docs302]

I have found many places with the Manley 14042r-8 in stock.

$769 on Amazon with free shipping and delivery next week.

 

[JeffV8]

$769 on Amazon with free shipping and delivery next week.

That IF they have them in stock. I spent a whole day on my computer and phone trying to verify they had parts in stock on shelf. Most of the great price listing did not have them and would get from mfg. I bought what was Guaranteed would arrive at my house with in a week. My problem now is getting ARP main studs and side bolts. Company says in stock, I order and pay them and get a email saying they are out of stock.

 

[Mad Hatter]

What Hp are you going for...?? I think with a gen3 with a N/A setup is just fine. Maybe if you are going to boosted?? I built three fully forged engines and they all went pop..... Am hoping the oil problems are sorted with this build.

AED has run 1200 rwhp with stock rods and pistons.

 

[JeffV8]

What Hp are you going for...?? I think with a gen3 with a N/A setup is just fine. Maybe if you are going to boosted?? I built three fully forged engines and they all went pop..... Am hoping the oil problems are sorted with this build.

AED has run 1200 rwhp with stock rods and pistons.

I’m a little gun shy for good reasons

 

[PatrickStapler]

I mean if your going to break it…

 

[Fabman]

I’m a little gun shy for good reasonsView attachment 72583

Everything breaks if you don’t do the things that make them live.

 

[JeffV8]

Everything breaks if you don’t do the things that make them live.

And that’s why I am going to build it right myself my way. It’s all a crap shoot with a stock short block. It could last forever or look like my scattered mess.