Turning Off Traction Control and AdvanceTrac

[Bill Pemberton]

Dang, John, 6 weeks sounds wonderful. I probably will be lucky to get on the track in 12 weeks , if lucky.

Well, let us know when you get out there and post some pictures so those of us in Antartica can whine and chastise you, ha!

 

[Stickboy]

Yup, I am replying to a 7 year old thread. Please feel free to guide me to a separate thread if I missed it. I have a "regular" 2012 Boss 302. I am curious to understand what causes the stability control to turn back on after I have fully shut it off (holding the brake and button for 7 seconds...). This happens often at Autocross and rarely on track days. Is it heat? Is it an ABS event? Thanks for any and all replies.

 

[TMSBOSS]

Simple answer is “The programming”.

The system will continue to “Turn on” if certain conditions are met. The way around this is to install a Boss302S/R ABS module.

Kohr has the BA version. https://www.ebay.com/i/233516032841?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28

CJ pony and others have the CA version. https://www.cjponyparts.com/ford-ra...-302s-race-car-2011-2014/p/M2353CA/?year=2013

 

[blacksheep-1]

There is a way to shut it down so you have to actually turn it "ON" if you want to use it, the Ford engineer at Phoenix at the time said he would do that for me (he wrote my tune for the Gt500 ) but I decided that would not be a great idea. All I needed to do is jump into that beast on a rainy day and forget to turn it "ON".. then end up in a Youtube video

 

[rgosda350]

I have been autox a 2013 Boss in CamC for several years and I have had stability turn back on in a few instances. Seems like it would be when you get into a tank slapper type event. You may be able to manage it, but the computer doesn't think you can. Or a spin, comes back on most times during that also.
I have also been told if you don't do a key off and turn TCS back off when restarting between runs, it may turn back on easier. I have not experienced that much as I usually shut the car off between runs.
I still haven't switched to the racing ABS unit, other priorities on the car have taken up each years budget, but people I know that have used it for autox have had nothing but good things to say about it.

 

[xr7]

I autocross my Boss, CAM C, always turn off the traction control, except when I forget . Also have the Track Key. I've never noticed mine turning back on after spinning it out. I'll have to watch for that next season. What I noticed is when I have done runs with the traction control not turned off. Delayed throttle response, feels like driving an early turbo car because of the throttle lag. You step it down coming out of a corner and nothing happens for a split second, then it suddenly wakes up and goes. Especially bad on the elements combining elevation changes while turning and anything off-camber. Its seems to be waiting for the car to either settle down or roll over.

 

[carver]

Simple answer is “The programming”.

The system will continue to “Turn on” if certain conditions are met. The way around this is to install a Boss302S/R ABS module.

Kohr has the BA version. https://www.ebay.com/i/233516032841?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28

CJ pony and others have the CA version. https://www.cjponyparts.com/ford-ra...-302s-race-car-2011-2014/p/M2353CA/?year=2013

Would you know if the module is a simple Plug n Play or is there some extra programming / reset involved ?

 

[Mad Hatter]

Shaun's tune from AED, has TC turned off 100% in his RACE tunes. With a SCT I just use the normal sport tune for wet tracks now.... dont ask why.....

 

[TMSBOSS]

Would you know if the module is a simple Plug n Play or is there some extra programming / reset involved ?

plug and play.

remove air cleaner box, a few screws and unplug old, plug in new and reinstall air box. 30 minutes.

 

[TymeSlayer]

You'll get some lights on the dash but nothing you can't ignore. I have the CA version and get no chime either. There were some who have reported this noise but I think this was with an older version.

 

[DaveW]

I have been autox a 2013 Boss in CamC for several years and I have had stability turn back on in a few instances. Seems like it would be when you get into a tank slapper type event. You may be able to manage it, but the computer doesn't think you can. Or a spin, comes back on most times during that also.
I have also been told if you don't do a key off and turn TCS back off when restarting between runs, it may turn back on easier. I have not experienced that much as I usually shut the car off between runs.
I still haven't switched to the racing ABS unit, other priorities on the car have taken up each years budget, but people I know that have used it for autox have had nothing but good things to say about it.

Echoing Bob's comments, it sure seemed to help (before I had the FR Module) to turn the car off between runs. I would also power cycle the car in between Pro Solo runs after having it turn back on at the launch of a second run.

DaveW

 

[EF1]

This is something that I have been considering for my car. What is the difference between the CA and BA versions of the abs module?

 

[TymeSlayer]

Here's a good read on it.

Boss 302r abs module

Hey guys, People who have done the boss 302r abs module, did your abs light flash continuous on the dash? I just put in a c module, not the ca and I got the tc off light, flashing abs light, and service advance track. Thoughts? Bill

trackmustangsonline.com

IMHO - you want the CA

 

[67GTA]

This is something that I have been considering for my car. What is the difference between the CA and BA versions of the abs module?

The BA version includes a bracket that isn’t needed for the S197.

 

[EF1]

Here's a good read on it.

Boss 302r abs module

Hey guys, People who have done the boss 302r abs module, did your abs light flash continuous on the dash? I just put in a c module, not the ca and I got the tc off light, flashing abs light, and service advance track. Thoughts? Bill

trackmustangsonline.com

IMHO - you want the CA

The BA version includes a bracket that isn’t needed for the S197.

Thank you for the info

 

[LS291]

This is a good thread to resurrect for those of us who are not original owners. I'm curious what effect Track Key has on the TC settings. I know I was able to slide the rear of the car both during off track control sessions and on track coming out of a tight corner (my instructor corrected me and I learned my lesson). I was also able to rotate the car during autocross with the throttle. I felt no restrictions from the computer. I had pushed and held down the button until the light on the dash lit up.