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Got one a while back, but went back to bleeding brakes the old fashioned way with a captive family member. Got better/cleaner results faster.
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This is how I do it too.....the old "Pumpity pumpity pump....HOLD!"
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Same here. The look on my wife's face when I ask her to come out to the shop for a "Leg Workout" is Priceless!! If fluid wasn't so expensive, Id bleed brakes more often. LOL.
The look is why I bought the Motive bleeder.
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I have one....was a waste of money IMHO.
My wife doesn't like to pump brakes and I don't really have anyone close to help. I can't pump and open bleeder screws by myself so I had to do something. I have used the Motive for years. It is slow but it works for me for fluid changes. If I am just bleeding the calipers a little I use a MityVac pump on the bleeder screws.
May be late for you but I have an MT82 removed from my Boss 302 with only 7k street miles from new. Complete with clutch. Second gear is bad. I am installing a Tremec. With such low miles the MT82 would make a great core to repair.
TMSBOSS
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I would never say that about My wife.
TMSBOSS
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Cost?
Car is out of action due to a broken MT82 so sourcing parts for the t56 swap.
Had time to install the Aerocatchs, not a fun install but should keep the hood still at higher speeds . The hood vent was a lot easier!
Had time to install the Aerocatchs, not a fun install but should keep the hood still at higher speeds . The hood vent was a lot easier!
Got the new coyote swap tuned, she runs strong, 409 to the wheels at 4500 ft elevation, not too shabby!
I’ve been eyeballing a pair of those, they are pretty slick.
@Mike_FL I am in middle of Magnum swap on my Boss 302 street car now. Be sure you check runout as shown on multiple videos. It seems the Magnum bell housing are not made perfectly in alignment with the Ford block. Every video I watched showed an offset dowel of .007 required. Mine was the same.
I ordered what the web sites said are offset dowels for Ford. They are .500 diameter. Apparently that is older models. I have to reorder and lose another week because they are actually .630 diameter. Not many vendors in that size. .625 is common for GM. I don’t know if that is close enough but I found a few places that sell .630 diameter.
Also check the throw out bearing travel. McLeod clutch gave be a video on that which is a little different than what I found elsewhere. Ultimately we did not have to add any shims. Even the stock configuration is pushing the limit. Another shim would be worse.
I ordered what the web sites said are offset dowels for Ford. They are .500 diameter. Apparently that is older models. I have to reorder and lose another week because they are actually .630 diameter. Not many vendors in that size. .625 is common for GM. I don’t know if that is close enough but I found a few places that sell .630 diameter.
Also check the throw out bearing travel. McLeod clutch gave be a video on that which is a little different than what I found elsewhere. Ultimately we did not have to add any shims. Even the stock configuration is pushing the limit. Another shim would be worse.
Thanks for the tips. Yes I did plan on measuring the runout. Need to order the Holley index plate.
I spoke with Kohr and they advised me I can reuse the same spacer that they installed when fitting the exedy hyper single to the mt82.
I’m hoping i can reuse the same exedy flywheel and pressure plate and just order the correct friction plate with the different spline count.
I spoke with Kohr and they advised me I can reuse the same spacer that they installed when fitting the exedy hyper single to the mt82.
I’m hoping i can reuse the same exedy flywheel and pressure plate and just order the correct friction plate with the different spline count.
You don’t need an index plate. The Tremec has a separate bell housing you can use that to measure runout.
The MT82 and Tremec have different splines on the input shaft. You cannot use the same clutch disc. Technically can reuse the pressure plate but most or all the compatible clutch disc come as a kit. My Boss is just a street cruiser so I bought a McLeod street kit.
Of course the drive shaft is also different. Several choices for that. Altogether the parts will be over $6k.
I got the offset dowel pins .007 from Summit. Their web site and others said .500 diameter for Ford and Mopar. Nope! The Coyote dowel pins are .630. SST has them. The original pins are hollow and house two of the bell housing bolts. Going to a solid offset pin means giving up two bolts. We decided to just ream out the two alignment holes on the bell housing and get it aligned by trial and error, then put bolts back in those holes. We are only off by .007. Tremec allows up to .005. I am hoping to get closer than that.
The MT82 and Tremec have different splines on the input shaft. You cannot use the same clutch disc. Technically can reuse the pressure plate but most or all the compatible clutch disc come as a kit. My Boss is just a street cruiser so I bought a McLeod street kit.
Of course the drive shaft is also different. Several choices for that. Altogether the parts will be over $6k.
I got the offset dowel pins .007 from Summit. Their web site and others said .500 diameter for Ford and Mopar. Nope! The Coyote dowel pins are .630. SST has them. The original pins are hollow and house two of the bell housing bolts. Going to a solid offset pin means giving up two bolts. We decided to just ream out the two alignment holes on the bell housing and get it aligned by trial and error, then put bolts back in those holes. We are only off by .007. Tremec allows up to .005. I am hoping to get closer than that.
I ordered the kit from Dederich Motorsport including a custom driveshaft from Precision Shaft Technologies.
I run an exedy hyper single 23 spline clutch with my mt82. I spoke with exedy and they said I can just order a 26 spline hyper single friction plate as my current kit has so low miles so hoping to reuse the exedy lightweight flywheel and the exedy pressure plate.
I won’t know the condition until I remove them. If they look bad then I’ll just get a whole new exedy hyper single 26 spline kit.
I spoke to a few Tremec dealers and the general consensus was around 20% need to have the Bellhousing realigned with offset dowels
This is a great video
I run an exedy hyper single 23 spline clutch with my mt82. I spoke with exedy and they said I can just order a 26 spline hyper single friction plate as my current kit has so low miles so hoping to reuse the exedy lightweight flywheel and the exedy pressure plate.
I won’t know the condition until I remove them. If they look bad then I’ll just get a whole new exedy hyper single 26 spline kit.
I spoke to a few Tremec dealers and the general consensus was around 20% need to have the Bellhousing realigned with offset dowels
This is a great video
Mine came from Modern Driveline during covid. They were the first distributor to get their hands on one. The two distributors within an hours drive could not get one at the time. Mine did not need bell housing realignment.
Understood on your clutch disc only. My car had the original Ford clutch with only 7k miles. On the bench looks like new. Would a different disc with proper splines work with the old plate? Not worth finding out for the few hundred dollars of a new kit. Your situation is different.
Exedy technical support said it’s all compatible. If it looks badly worn when I remove it then I’ll reevaluate
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