Duane Black
Curbs go brrrppp
I'm the poor high school teacher out here making due in a world if coil overs and GT350 cars so just bear with me...
I've tracked for 4 years now on stock v6 springs. If i ever had a set of 14" brakes and coil overs I'd never know what to do with myself.
So i found the boss 302 springs in our very own classified section and pounced. While i await the ups man eagerly next week, I'm I'm wondering....
Should i put in the whole setup, or just the front? I would be tempted to say the whole setup since the Boss 302 is alleged to be the quintessential Mustang in regards to its handling. To run that spring setup would be essentially be to have an underpowered slightly lighter Boss 302, rightttt?
In tuning stages in the past, i have two major experiences regarding rear rate changes. In 2017 when i ran 3-4 track events a year and 12-15 autocrosses, i bought a set of koni yellow struts and shocks. Several autocross events later, unablw to find a balance, i removed the rear shocks in favor of the OEM stuff and left the koni adjustable front strut in. The rear end was too unpredictable and i couldnt get back to throttle and lean in the rear of the car again until the factory shocks were back in. Im still running said struts/shocks setup, and it restored a neutral feel to the car again.
I understand springing a car and damping a car are different. My second experience regards that lateral spring we have, the sway bar. Last year i hooked up a set of Strano bars. A member here whom i cant recall predicted since my car was so soft, id likely prefer both bars at full stiff and they were correct and i run both bars at full stiff today, rain or shine... to me, the car was too understeerry at medium and is near neutral/slight oversteer at full stiff in the rear.
I suppose the correct answer may be to swap in the front and experiment with the back
For what its worth, when im driving a simulator, i generally prefer a stiffer front to rear setup as it seems to let me lean on the rear end more.... which supports my preference concerning shocks a couple of paragraphs ago.
So in conclusion, your honor, the debate point is to put in the front boss 302 and leave the back alone, which would put them near equal to the rear springs in rate (148F/156R) or swap in both as theyre designed to work together? (148F/186R, numbers per @Grant 302 pinned post in this subsection compiling all the rates for us, for which i count myself among the many who owe him gratitude)
I've tracked for 4 years now on stock v6 springs. If i ever had a set of 14" brakes and coil overs I'd never know what to do with myself.
So i found the boss 302 springs in our very own classified section and pounced. While i await the ups man eagerly next week, I'm I'm wondering....
Should i put in the whole setup, or just the front? I would be tempted to say the whole setup since the Boss 302 is alleged to be the quintessential Mustang in regards to its handling. To run that spring setup would be essentially be to have an underpowered slightly lighter Boss 302, rightttt?
In tuning stages in the past, i have two major experiences regarding rear rate changes. In 2017 when i ran 3-4 track events a year and 12-15 autocrosses, i bought a set of koni yellow struts and shocks. Several autocross events later, unablw to find a balance, i removed the rear shocks in favor of the OEM stuff and left the koni adjustable front strut in. The rear end was too unpredictable and i couldnt get back to throttle and lean in the rear of the car again until the factory shocks were back in. Im still running said struts/shocks setup, and it restored a neutral feel to the car again.
I understand springing a car and damping a car are different. My second experience regards that lateral spring we have, the sway bar. Last year i hooked up a set of Strano bars. A member here whom i cant recall predicted since my car was so soft, id likely prefer both bars at full stiff and they were correct and i run both bars at full stiff today, rain or shine... to me, the car was too understeerry at medium and is near neutral/slight oversteer at full stiff in the rear.
I suppose the correct answer may be to swap in the front and experiment with the back
For what its worth, when im driving a simulator, i generally prefer a stiffer front to rear setup as it seems to let me lean on the rear end more.... which supports my preference concerning shocks a couple of paragraphs ago.
So in conclusion, your honor, the debate point is to put in the front boss 302 and leave the back alone, which would put them near equal to the rear springs in rate (148F/156R) or swap in both as theyre designed to work together? (148F/186R, numbers per @Grant 302 pinned post in this subsection compiling all the rates for us, for which i count myself among the many who owe him gratitude)