BOSS 302 LS AT WATKINS GLEN

[roketman]

OK ,got the Boss out on the track with the new brakes and bigger rear sway.My goal was no brake issues and getting rid of the dreaded understeer.Good news! Solved both problems! Now I just need to figure out how to get tires to last more than a day.I had Porsches for breakfast and lunch!
Here is some video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsGcYtYVeSE&feature=plcp

 

[steveespo]

Ron
The PCA guys must hate you, it's one thing to pass Boxsters, 993s and 996s but you are killing 997 GT3s and Turbos like they are autocross cones. That car is like a Grand Am GT car. Only thing is we have to get your data logger to record individual laps not an endless loop.
Steve

 

[PeteInCT]

Ron won't admit it but he was driving in the beginners group!

(PS: If you keep that up you will have those guys going back to Porsche and burning their cars in the front of the showroom ! ;D )

 

[Highpower11]

Very impressive! Can't wait for Track Attack so I can get started.

 

[VoodooBoss]

So I'm guessing your happy with the car now? ;D Wow you were flying. Have you had any shifting or overheating issues? You removed the clutch spring right? Have you installed the MGW shifter, JHR clutch line and or changed the tranny fluid? Are you using the 302S grille or removed the grille openings?

 

[bkaser90]

I remember when you were one of those guys in the Porsches, lol Ron.

How bad was the understeer stock? what kinda brake issues were you having?

I think I'm gonna go to the Nasa event there at the end of Sept. Not gonna take the Boss yet, gonna take old #90. I still have some stuff I wanna get daone on the Boss before it sees the track. You going to that event?

 

[ArizonaBOSS]

 

[PeteInCT]

AZ - His head is big enough ! We'll all need to chip in to buy him a bigger helmet soon !




(I love you too Ron ;D )

 

[ALLENGUA]

That is so funny !!!!!!! can you just imagine what was goin thru there heads as they were passed every time ($80.000 ? $100.000 and im getting spanked by $45.000 !!!!!!!!!!!!!) that is just unreal! i have got to find a track near north east texas to go play !!! Hell here all they got is drag racing and if one more punk in an SS camaro pulls up beside me and ask to drag race i think i'll just save my car and get out and beat the crap outta him!!!!! ;D ;D

 

[four-walling]

WOW!

passing all those Porsches with their big wings , eating their lunch, and then going back for seconds!

There could be some interesting car conversations in the bar if you were to meet up with any of them...

 

[roketman]

DOT5,
Yes I have the MGW shifter.No I do not yet have the high flow clutch line in yet ,I hope on Wednesday .I did ditch the clutch spring.I have not changed from the stock fluids ,but I do think its time.What to use is the next question on the trans and rear diff.I did experience hard to get in forth gear when the trans was very hot .But never missed getting it int o gear.I am using the stock 2013 grill with the openings.My temp was 260 but no limp mode.
Kassser , Brakes are always an issue for me.I put in the 302r/s brakes .I must say they are absolutely spectacular.Flawless in fact .Cars are designed to have understeer for the normal consumer .The only way to reduce understeer is to slow down.This makes cars safe in the manufacturers mind .The under steer can be dialed out with in reason.But the 302 r/s set up is brilliant .I used the 22mm bar instead of the small one .The car is truly a sleeper and a gem.I just wish I could get my Hoosiers to last .I did 423 miles used 60 gallons of gas and 2 sets of Hoosiers .Ouch! But I can't wait to do it again!
The PCA guys were asking for rides! I must have given at least 8 rides.They could not get over the Mustang solid rear axel thing!The only 2 cars to pass me was a 997 cup car and souped up GT2RS .They both drove very well too.
My next car is going to be a GT2 .The PCA guys know who I am. And if they don't I really don't care! I just love to drive on the track! I only am programed one way.FLAT OUT! My wife said if I was willing to go slower I could save money on tires.I tried that for a half a lap.Once I a gt3rs went by I had to go after him!I guess I got issues!

 

[F.D. Sako]

great vid! enjoyed watching it.

i wonder how the non LS boss would react to the same anti-sway bar with the different suspension setup.

 

[wwilde001]

Do you have the part numbers for the brakes and sway bars? I know I am personally disappointed with the brakes and really haven't had the opportunity to see what the car will do on the track. I did look at the Ford Racing catalog and they list Brembo brakes. Are they different than what's on the LS? Thanks for the info.

 

[VoodooBoss]

roketman how do you have your 18000C dampers set, full firm?

 

[PeteInCT]

Do you have the part numbers for the brakes and sway bars? I know I am personally disappointed with the brakes and really haven't had the opportunity to see what the car will do on the track. I did look at the Ford Racing catalog and they list Brembo brakes. Are they different than what's on the LS? Thanks for the info.

Are you using stock pads? If so start there, most drivers find the stock calipers more than sufficient, however the stock pads are truly worthless for any kind of performance driving.

 

[roketman]

The brakes I got thru Capaldi racing. www.capldiracing.com Ask for Tim
NOT CHEAP BUT AWESOME!They are the 302 r/s racing brakes
The shock setting were 2 off full stiff in the front and 3 off full stiff in the rear.The front sway in the middle setting /Th e rear sway is the 22mm bar
Hope this help you guys.
Ron

 

[cloud9]

Do you have the part numbers for the brakes and sway bars? I know I am personally disappointed with the brakes and really haven't had the opportunity to see what the car will do on the track. I did look at the Ford Racing catalog and they list Brembo brakes. Are they different than what's on the LS? Thanks for the info.

The brakes are fine on our cars. Ron's a nut and most won't push their cars like he does. I have 40 track days on the Boss using the stock brakes and have depressed hundreds of Porsche owners. Before spending 10k on a brake upgrade, get your car on a track and see how it does for you. All you need to start is to upgrade your fluid to DOT4 and give it a go. After you start pushing the car you'll want a more aggressive pad compound and SS brake lines.

 

[cloud9]

The brakes I got thru Capaldi racing. www.capldiracing.com Ask for Tim
NOT CHEAP BUT AWESOME!They are the 302 r/s racing brakes
The shock setting were 2 off full stiff in the front and 3 off full stiff in the rear.The front sway in the middle setting /Th e rear sway is the 22mm bar
Hope this help you guys.
Ron

Ron that bar is from the GT and it's "softer" than the 26mm one that came on your car. It should reduce oversteer not increase it. I think you told me you were having understeer issues, which after you moved the front bar to a softer position it solved it.

 

[ArizonaBOSS]

I get heartburn thinking about a $2500 StopTech kit...10K Brembo Pro kit, FML

 

[PJWANNABE]

OK ,got the Boss out on the track with the new brakes and bigger rear sway.My goal was no brake issues and getting rid of the dreaded understeer.Good news! Solved both problems! Now I just need to figure out how to get tires to last more than a day.I had Porsches for breakfast and lunch!
Here is some video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsGcYtYVeSE&feature=plcp

I spent the weekend racing a FR500S on the Glen on iRacing. When I watch your video and then compare it to iRacing, it is just amazing how realistic the simulation is. My line and MPH were about the same as yours and the lap times were spot on. I definitely want to get up there sometime for a track weekend at least once.