S197 3V Fabman's build; How did we get here? Build Thread

[Fabman]

I missed this. do you know what caused it?

Yup. I was running the electric water pump with the engine off to purge the system and the phone rang….i got distracted and ran the battery down. So I jump started it and let the alternator charge it back up but the rapid discharge followed by rapid re charge over heated the battery and poof.

 

[honeybadger]

Yup. I was running the electric water pump with the engine off to purge the system and the phone rang….i got distracted and ran the battery down. So I jump started it and let the alternator charge it back up but the rapid discharge followed by rapid re charge over heated the battery and poof.

Ahhh. Was that one of the non-HD/re-start battery? I had an issue with my first one because it discharged to like 3v and ballooned the case. The newer ones cut off output at a safe limit 10.x IIRC) to prevent this exact thing.

 

[Fabman]

Ahhh. Was that one of the non-HD/re-start battery? I had an issue with my first one because it discharged to like 3v and ballooned the case. The newer ones cut off output at a safe limit 10.x IIRC) to prevent this exact thing.

Here is my spare:

 

[GAR944]

Here is my spare:

View attachment 103792

100A alternator meets 12A max charge rate battery and smoke show.
I got accused of this yesterday, "did you not read the instructions like a guy".
At least you got video of it to show the rest of us "guys" who don't read instructions either.

 

[Fabman]

100A alternator meets 12A max charge rate battery and smoke show.
I got accused of this yesterday, "did you not read the instructions like a guy".
At least you got video of it to show the rest of us "guys" who don't read instructions either.

You assume I can read.....oh wait.....

 

[Albino500]

As far as I know it’s stand alone but we’ll have to hear from @Albino500 as he wired up the car. I have a similar load, electric water pump, cool shirt, EPAS rack but no cooler pumps.

It is a stand alone system.

 

[honeybadger]

Here is my spare:

View attachment 103792

Ahh. Okay. So this is a motorcycle battery and doesn’t have good battery management system. Basically, I was told they can’t protect themselves from overcharging or over discharging. I did the same thing. Fortunately mine didn’t catch fire.

The ATX-20HD or 30d are the safe ones

 

[Fabman]

Ahh. Okay. So this is a motorcycle battery and doesn’t have good battery management system. Basically, I was told they can’t protect themselves from overcharging or over discharging. I did the same thing. Fortunately mine didn’t catch fire.

The ATX-20HD or 30d are the safe ones

This is the one that burned up:
Antigravity Batteries Light Weight Motorcycle Lithium V-Twin Performance Battery LEFT NEGATIVE TERMINAL - OEM ATX20 Replacement Harley YTX20 YTX20L YTX20H YTX20BS - 5 Pounds 780 CCA - MADE IN USA

This is the one that's in the car now:
Antigravity Batteries - Ytx20 Case Format 780 Ca, 32 Ah (Pb Eq) 6.875 X 3.44 X 6.125 in (Mm: 174X87X155) Left Negative Terminal (AG-YTX20-L), Standard

This is the one that's a spare:
Antigravity ATX20-R Right Lithium Battery

 

[Fabman]

YTX20 Hi-Power Lithium Battery

The Antigravity YTX-20 is a lightweight Lithium replacement for stock/OEM “20 Size” Lead/Acid battery. Ours offers OVER 2.5 times the Cranking Power!

antigravitybatteries.com

 

[captdistraction]

Ahh. Okay. So this is a motorcycle battery and doesn’t have good battery management system. Basically, I was told they can’t protect themselves from overcharging or over discharging. I did the same thing. Fortunately mine didn’t catch fire.

The ATX-20HD or 30d are the safe ones

I was told by the manufacturer the ATX-20HD is specifically incompatible with the late S197 (11-14) charging system, just as a note for those looking. They didn't mention the 30HD, but mentioned the capacity is an issue with the charging system and the 20HD.

 

[Fabman]

I was told by the manufacturer the ATX-20HD is specifically incompatible with the late S197 (11-14) charging system, just as a note for those looking. They didn't mention the 30HD, but mentioned the capacity is an issue with the charging system and the 20HD.

hoo boy...

 

[Fabman]

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[Fabman]

Whoah….heres a blast from the past….

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=4213221895591916

 

[Albino500]

Snakes on the Lake?

 

[Fabman]

Snakes on the Lake?

I forget now it's been so long.

 

[Fabman]

Snakes on the Lake?

I think this was snakes on the lake:

 

[Fabman]

Snakes on the Lake?

Wait...maybe they both were. LOL.
The second video I made on my computer way back when, the first one is a slide show my phone just made from google photos and sent me.
Probably the same event. (Spoiler alert, the second video was my big "Go Pro" debut so its a little more interesting.)

 

[Bill Pemberton]

It's ok Sal, you are getting up there and it is okay to forget or even be totally confused , ha. Just be thankful you aren't as far gone with these things as 302Bob or I, ha!

 

[Fabman]

**Fab Fun**
What do you do when no-one makes a fan shroud for your customers radiator?
You start from scratch......

 

[302BOB]

What do you do when no-one makes a fan shroud for your customers radiator?

If you're the Fabman, you get busy.....................necessity is the mother of invention...