Huge brake upgrade for S197 chassis

[Apolinar]

I know this a older thread but if i follow the part list on forum and get the Goodridge p/n: 12367 will it be a direct bolt on? Or do i still have to modify some of the parts? Any input would be greatly appreciated i'm deciding between this the 13 Gt 500 6 piston or just going with the Wilwood superlite kit.

 

[steveespo]

Yes Apolinar it is a direct bolt on using the 12367 lines or OEM 2013-14 GT500 lines. Also remember the rotors have to be the 13-14 GT500 15” or aftermarket equivalent.


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[Apolinar]

Would these work? They say 50th anniversary not sure if they're different. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/201561870059

 

[VoodooBoss]

Not sure but I like the gloss black better than the matte black for easier cleaning. Here's a set for less money.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15-17-Must...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

 

[Apolinar]

Not sure but I like the gloss black better than the matte black for easier cleaning. Here's a set for less money.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15-17-Mustang-50th-Anniversary-GT-Black-Brembo-Pair-Front-Brake-Calipers-OEM/192230167124?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Yeah really hoping they do. Has anyone figured out a way to get a decent looking rear brake?

 

[Surfergeek]

If it’s about looks, AP Racing has a nice kit for the rear via Stillen. Wilwood also has a kit, but neither is really suited for track duty.

If you want track ready PFC has a bracket that re-uses the factory caliper with a nice bracket and 12.9” floating rear rotors. It looks nice too and adds a lot more beef around the rear caliper that cuts down on deflection. I am going this route for the rear through Filip at Cortex.

PFC kit since it’s hard to find: https://s3.amazonaws.com/ccommunications/Build+Sheets/20150408_LAT_Mustang+Build+Sheet+F&B.pdf


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[Apolinar]

So would it be safe to order the 50th anniversary set which are the gloss black ones and not the matte black ones? Or should i get the original matte black ones?

 

[steveespo]

So would it be safe to order the 50th anniversary set which are the gloss black ones and not the matte black ones? Or should i get the original matte black ones?

Yes 50th calipers are the same


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[Apolinar]

Ok so i was looking at different rotors and came across these not sure if they would fit. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sph-127-61106cr/overview/ also as for pads would any of the s550 pads for those calipers work and what kind of shims would i need same for s550 brembo performance or is there a specific one to get the right fitment. Thanks to all this has helped me a lot still putting the pieces together,

 

[superhero]

Ok so i was looking at different rotors and came across these not sure if they would fit. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sph-127-61106cr/overview/ also as for pads would any of the s550 pads for those calipers work and what kind of shims would i need same for s550 brembo performance or is there a specific one to get the right fitment. Thanks to all this has helped me a lot still putting the pieces together,

Just a suggestion.
You should maybe reach out to KNS brakes.
http://www.knsbrakes.com/c/home
They are a TMO vendor.

 

[TMSBOSS]

Drilled rotors are not the best ideal if you will be tracking your car. Heat cracks will form at the drilled holes and consume the rotor.
A standard blank rotor or a slotted rotor is preferred. KNS lists your rotors as drilled or not drilled. Saves $8.00 for non drilled or $100.00 for their blank rotor. Lots of folks are going with the blank since they are finding the only real difference is the price.

 

[Apolinar]

Thanks sounds good guys. Appreciate all the help.

 

[cholmes1]

Does anyone know if S550 setup will fit behind the OEM 19" Laguna Seca wheels?

Thanks!

 

[captdistraction]

I believe so but you might have to run a spacer


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[Mad Hatter]

Every time I put my OEM boss wheels back on I cant believe how dam heavy they are!!

 

[SavetheManuals]

Every time I put my OEM boss wheels back on I cant believe how dam heavy they are!!

Seriously! It's amazing the difference a lighter wheel (and tire) setup makes!

 

[Fabman]

Seriously! It's amazing the difference a lighter wheel (and tire) setup makes!

It’s ten fold. Removing 10 pounds of unsprung weight will make your car act like it’s 100 pounds lighter.


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[Norm Peterson]

It’s ten fold. Removing 10 pounds of unsprung weight will make your car act like it’s 100 pounds lighter.

Maybe the improvement in suspension function feels that good.

But the reduction in rotational inertia isn't in nearly a 1 to 10 comparison with car weight (it's closer to 1 lb rotating corresponding to 2 lbs non-rotating, I've done a few rotational inertia calcs).


Norm

 

[Fabman]

Maybe the improvement in suspension function feels that good.

But the reduction in rotational inertia isn't in nearly a 1 to 10 comparison with car weight (it's closer to 1 lb rotating corresponding to 2 lbs non-rotating, I've done a few rotational inertia calcs).


Norm

It's the wheels reaction to change of direction that makes the car act as though it was lighter. Heavy wheels make the car feel heavy. 10-1 is a long standing rule of thumb. I didn't make that up. Rotational inertia is a different thing....

 

[Norm Peterson]

I know that "rule of thumb" has been around for a long time. But as with many rules of thumb, the applicability of that "rule" never seems to show up. In this case, it's about rotating weight - more correctly rotational inertia - and I'm about 99% sure that it came out of the hotrodding side of the automotive hobby because 1:10 can't be justified through the physics and math involved. A 1 to 10 ratio might well apply to flywheel weight loss as an overall average up through the gears, due to the fact that they are being accelerated rotationally several times faster than the wheels.

I found at least a couple places that back my own rough 1:2 rule of thumb, which I've been able to verify via comparing acceleration simulations.


Norm