Mustang GTD at Nurburgring?

[blacksheep-1]

Who was the wheel man?

 

[Fat Boss]

Dirk Muller.

 

[FastEd]

Video: Dyno Testing, The Old-Fashioned Way: The GT40 Story

A 1967 Ford promotional film shows the company's early efforts to use dyno testing to improve its LeMans racing results.

www.enginelabs.com

Ford used a dyno and a bunch of computers in the 60s to simulate running the 427 engines at Le Mans for the GT40s.

 

[blacksheep-1]

Video: Dyno Testing, The Old-Fashioned Way: The GT40 Story

A 1967 Ford promotional film shows the company's early efforts to use dyno testing to improve its LeMans racing results.

www.enginelabs.com

Ford used a dyno and a bunch of computers in the 60s to simulate running the 427 engines at Le Mans for the GT40s.

Yes they did.
What most folks don't know is that during the space race in the 60s. Ford, Chrysler and GM all had aerospace divisions. They were on the cutting edge of technology. Chrysler had the
" whale" a fully instrumental van that went wherever their RnD Charger went. ( A company called Turbo Action owned by a friend of mine named Paul Forte was the first to get the torqueflight Trans to work properly in a dragster application.)

 

[Ludachris]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a63186860/mustang-gtd-driver-dirk-muller-breaks-down-record-nurburgring-lap-attempt/

 

[Ludachris]

I was hoping to get a photo from this lap from Ford to use as one of the calendar covers but didn't want to push off the calendar any more trying to get permission.

 

[Ewheels]

I was hoping to get a photo from this lap from Ford to use as one of the calendar covers but didn't want to push off the calendar any more trying to get permission.

That would've been very cool

 

[Ludachris]

That would've been very cool

yeah, I thought so too.

 

[Mike_FL]

New time

 

[Ewheels]

New time

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They beat the previous gen GT3RS and tied the Huracan Performante....that's pretty dang good! Especially for the fatty that it is.

 

[Mad Hatter]

Maybe they lost a little weight??

 

[Ewheels]

Maybe they lost a little weight??

No way. That's not the Mustang way.
Add weight and subsequently, more power to compensate for the weight.

 

[Bill Pemberton]

Mustang needs to get Ozempic for a Sponsor , maybe that will give them the hint they be a bit of a fatty!

 

[Mike_FL]

 

[bnight]

Maybe they lost a little weight??

Nope they just run the car really really low based on the video from the lap to the point where it was actually bottoming a lot. I'm not sure this was the optimal setup and by the looks of the video there is a lot more time to be had in that lap as in some points the corner minimum speed is less than the Steeda Q767 Mach 1 that Misha drove a few years back. I still think a C8 ZR1 will probably be faster than the GTD at least based on the American track records that the ZR1 posted at VIR Grand etc. But it's good that Ford is still trying to beat the 992 GT3 RS.

 

[Mad Hatter]

Nope they just run the car really really low based on the video from the lap to the point where it was actually bottoming a lot. I'm not sure this was the optimal setup and by the looks of the video there is a lot more time to be had in that lap as in some points the corner minimum speed is less than the Steeda Q767 Mach 1 that Misha drove a few years back. I still think a C8 ZR1 will probably be faster than the GTD at least based on the American track records that the ZR1 posted at VIR Grand etc. But it's good that Ford is still trying to beat the 992 GT3 RS.

At least from the video, the lap looks very attainable for any skilled driver. Driver does not seem to be on the edge even though its still a fantastic time. I fully expect the dam corvette to blow this time away for a fraction of the price.

 

[Mike_FL]

At least from the video, the lap looks very attainable for any skilled driver. Driver does not seem to be on the edge even though its still a fantastic time. I fully expect the dam corvette to blow this time away for a fraction of the price.

I wouldn’t say that to Dirk Müller

 

[TeeLew]

At least from the video, the lap looks very attainable for any skilled driver.

I don't think we watched the same lap.

 

[TeeLew]

Nope they just run the car really really low based on the video from the lap to the point where it was actually bottoming a lot. I'm not sure this was the optimal setup and by the looks of the video there is a lot more time to be had in that lap as in some points the corner minimum speed is less than the Steeda Q767 Mach 1 that Misha drove a few years back. I still think a C8 ZR1 will probably be faster than the GTD at least based on the American track records that the ZR1 posted at VIR Grand etc. But it's good that Ford is still trying to beat the 992 GT3 RS.

I'd say it's bottoming about the appropriate level. It never really seemed to upset the car. I don't know if a setup is ever really optimal, but Multimatic has been working for a while on this project, so it's about as good as they can do.

It's way too bloody heavy and too much of that is on the nose. The supercharged engine is cool and all, but it's a heavy, inefficient answer to their power question which kills the handling of the car.

One of these days, someone will realize that a Supercar doesn't need a 1000 HP to be a great car if it only weighs 1000 kilos. (~2200 freedom units). The GTD is closer to 2000.

They needed to make a 'Grand Touring' and 'Club Sport' version. C.S. being at least 300# lighter.

 

[bnight]

I'd say it's bottoming about the appropriate level. It never really seemed to upset the car. I don't know if a setup is ever really optimal, but Multimatic has been working for a while on this project, so it's about as good as they can do.

It's way too bloody heavy and too much of that is on the nose. The supercharged engine is cool and all, but it's a heavy, inefficient answer to their power question which kills the handling of the car.

One of these days, someone will realize that a Supercar doesn't need a 1000 HP to be a great car if it only weighs 1000 kilos. (~2200 freedom units). The GTD is closer to 2000.

They needed to make a 'Grand Touring' and 'Club Sport' version. C.S. being at least 300# lighter.

The 992 GT3 RS they are trying to beat is like 1525 kilos ( 3362 lbs) and only 525 hp yet it wipes the floor with the GTD for the past 2 years.

And the huge difference is in the corners where the GT3 RS just goes so insanely faster than the Mustang. For example Flugplatz 193 km/h for the GTD vs 209 km/h for the GT3 RS. Then Schwedenkreuz 228 km/h for the GTD vs 239 km/h for the GT3 RS.

I think there is only so much you can do when your car weights that much as a Mustang and i feel like we all know that. I also think that based on the SerpentStang discovery that you need twin turbo and not Supercharger to have a reasonably fast Mustang Ford could have packaged the GTD much differently but they didn't.

Ether way I think the GTD is doing us all a favour as without it we wouldn't have the lovely GT3 Mustang that is actually winning races (24 hours of Daytona) and currently racing in almost any form of GT racing in the world.