Will you be at Sonoma Sept 7-8?
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Will you be at Sonoma Sept 7-8?
Yessir! Sat the 7thWill you be at Sonoma Sept 7-8?
Swing by and say hi. RR car and number 760. Ill be with a few other buds in a group.Yessir! Sat the 7th
Will do Byron!Swing by and say hi. RR car and number 760. Ill be with a few other buds in a group.
I will be moving to Kawartha Lakes in the very near future so I look forward to seeing you there at Mosport. Area 27 is a good long track with technical turns and it and The Ridge and ORP are home for me out here. Westwood was fun on my motorcycle but quite small. I look forward to learning Mosport, share any info you have. Thanks.Area 27? Meh. Truly meh.
An exercise in seeing how many turns and switchbacks you can put in a given area of mostly flat land.
Area 27 was supposed to be an F1 track, but there is a zero percent chance that the F1 circuit would ever have gone there, it's out in nowhere. Hands up all those who know where Osoyos, B.C. is? So it's mostly a school track for executives from Vancouver.
Personally, I think Westwood was a better track than Area 27 is, but the fact that it was known as Wetwood tells you something negative about it. Bring rains, you'd need them.
But then I've been spoiled by living 10 miles from Mosport, the fastest road course (tied with Road Atlanta) in North America, and a few hours from Le Circuit Mont Tremblant, Lime Rock, Watkins Glen and Mid-Ohio.
Now those are great race tracks.
My understanding is it is average speed for a complete lap, but that data isn't always easy to find whereas lap times are easy to find. Last I looked Mosport and Road Atlanta were very close by that metric, they are very close in length and have a lot of similarity. Mosport is 2.459 miles, RA is 2.550. RA is almost 1/10 of a mile longer so that's going to add a second or so to lap times.I always have questions on how someone determines the fastest road course in N. America, since most of my Pro Racing friends claim either Mosport or Road America , with Road Atlanta often in the mix, but............................ If they are speaking average speed then I get it , but there are so many courses that have really fast sections and often the technical case of going from 150+ to a slow corner is often more difficult ( Mid - Ohio comes to mind ). When you throw in tracks like Willow Springs with its insane super fast sweeping curve going into a straight before the last turn, many on the West Coast will want it mentioned. Overall I guess you are talking average speed , since some tracks like Road America have extremely fast straights ( 3 ) so easy to consider it. Just a comment , as there are so many great tracks in our Continent and Mosport is always in the conversation, but anymore one has to ask if outright speed is the entire answer because many of us love the super technical nature of many road courses. Mosport is technical in that the speed attained mean you better have the car placed in the right place every lap. Not really disagreein, just commenting on the fact that so many voice various tracks as the fastest , but it can be quite subjective.
SomeI always have questions on how someone determines the fastest road course in N. America, since most of my Pro Racing friends claim either Mosport or Road America , with Road Atlanta often in the mix, but............................ If they are speaking average speed then I get it , but there are so many courses that have really fast sections and often the technical case of going from 150+ to a slow corner is often more difficult ( Mid - Ohio comes to mind ). When you throw in tracks like Willow Springs with its insane super fast sweeping curve going into a straight before the last turn, many on the West Coast will want it mentioned. Overall I guess you are talking average speed , since some tracks like Road America have extremely fast straights ( 3 ) so easy to consider it. Just a comment , as there are so many great tracks in our Continent and Mosport is always in the conversation, but anymore one has to ask if outright speed is the entire answer because many of us love the super technical nature of many road courses. Mosport is technical in that the speed attained mean you better have the car placed in the right place every lap. Not really disagreein, just commenting on the fact that so many voice various tracks as the fastest , but it can be quite subjective.
So Area 27 is 3.0 miles long and the sedan lap record is 2.12 in a Porsche GT3 RS. The fastest I have done is a 2.23, what lap times are you doing at Mosport and in what car? I am looking forward to my introduction to that track, as well as Watkins Glenn. Thanks JDee.My understanding is it is average speed for a complete lap, but that data isn't always easy to find whereas lap times are easy to find. Last I looked Mosport and Road Atlanta were very close by that metric, they are very close in length and have a lot of similarity. Mosport is 2.459 miles, RA is 2.550. RA is almost 1/10 of a mile longer so that's going to add a second or so to lap times.
Caddy DPI 1.08.69 at Road Atlanta, Acura DPI 1.06.25 at Mosport. It's still not apples to apples because we know nothing about weather, tire compounds, rule sets the cars were prepped to, and probably 50 other variables and also the 1/10 that RA is longer.
The main thing is they are very similar tracks in layout and they both are an absolute blast to drive. They truly are world class tracks and should be on every track rat's bucket list.
Just get some big boys pants for these two monsters!!!!!
My best time at Mosport is 1.33.3, that was in a fairly modified, gutted, stripped 2016 PP1 Mustang on 305/30/19 AR1 slicks.So Area 27 is 3.0 miles long and the sedan lap record is 2.12 in a Porsche GT3 RS. The fastest I have done is a 2.23, what lap times are you doing at Mosport and in what car? I am looking forward to my introduction to that track, as well as Watkins Glenn. Thanks JDee.
IRP's new infield course isn't a traditional course, but the run up onto that front straight has to lead to some serious speed doesn't it?I always have questions on how someone determines the fastest road course in N. America, since most of my Pro Racing friends claim either Mosport or Road America , with Road Atlanta often in the mix, but............................ If they are speaking average speed then I get it , but there are so many courses that have really fast sections and often the technical case of going from 150+ to a slow corner is often more difficult ( Mid - Ohio comes to mind ). When you throw in tracks like Willow Springs with its insane super fast sweeping curve going into a straight before the last turn, many on the West Coast will want it mentioned. Overall I guess you are talking average speed , since some tracks like Road America have extremely fast straights ( 3 ) so easy to consider it. Just a comment , as there are so many great tracks in our Continent and Mosport is always in the conversation, but anymore one has to ask if outright speed is the entire answer because many of us love the super technical nature of many road courses. Mosport is technical in that the speed attained mean you better have the car placed in the right place every lap. Not really disagreein, just commenting on the fact that so many voice various tracks as the fastest , but it can be quite subjective.
I'd go with Road America Bill. 155 into turn 1, 153 into turn 5 and 150 into Canada Corner. Plus the Kink at 112 apex speed and a 90 mph Carousel. In N/A Coyote MustangsIRP's new infield course isn't a traditional course, but the run up onto that front straight has to lead to some serious speed doesn't it?