Ford “Mustang” Mach-E 1400 Prototype

[PatientZero]

I would definitely drive a Mach for a daily/family hauler, it looks awesome. I just don't see how a borderline SUV is considered a "performance" car.

 

[ChrisM]

It definitely has a very near-future/science fiction look to it and honestly, I don't hate it. Now I just wish it wasn't an SUV. I suppose it's inevitable, I just don't look forward to the wave of fart-sniffing yuppies at car shows or track events with their Mach-whatever looking down their noses at old school.

Then again...there's enough fart-sniffing old schoolers looking down their noses at new school that it will probably even out in the end.

 

[Norm Peterson]

It definitely has a very near-future/science fiction look to it and honestly, I don't hate it. Now I just wish it wasn't an SUV.

This ^^^ .

As a CUV/SUV (and ignoring the naming), it's not bad looking, at least where the exterior is concerned. But that huge square-cornered center screen and the little square-cornered one in front of the driver clash with the softer shapes of everything else inside and look tacked on.

Too bad they didn't take about 6 inches out of the height and made it a sportwagon. I have a feeling that Mustang fans would have had far less problem with something like that being called a Mustang.


Norm

 

[Grant 302]

Too bad they didn't take about 6 inches out of the height and made it a sportwagon. I have a feeling that Mustang fans would have had far less problem with something like that being called a Mustang.

Some of the Mustang faithful would complain about any use of the Mustang name. And I don’t think a sport wagon configuration would make it a better Tesla fighter. Perkhaps I’d agree if the Dodge Magnum were still in production and with performance oriented sub-models.

 

[Norm Peterson]

Some of the Mustang faithful would complain about any use of the Mustang name. And I don’t think a sport wagon configuration would make it a better Tesla fighter. Perkhaps I’d agree if the Dodge Magnum were still in production and with performance oriented sub-models.

I'm sure there would have been complaints. But at least it wouldn't have looked like an SUV that hadn't quite grown up yet.

Porsche gets their Taycan down under 55" tall . . .


Norm

 

[Tonymustang302]

I would definitely drive a Mach for a daily/family hauler, it looks awesome. I just don't see how a borderline SUV is considered a "performance" car.

porsche cayenne turbo?

 

[PatientZero]

porsche cayenne turbo?

Another family hauler IMO

 

[yotah1]

For those who want to watch it, Ford just released a documentary (28 minutes) showing how we designed and built this thing
You can see my stupid face in there, look for the GT350 or the Mach 1 t-shirts.

 

[blacksheep-1]

I'm sure there would have been complaints. But at least it wouldn't have looked like an SUV that hadn't quite grown up yet.

Porsche gets their Taycan down under 55" tall . . .


Norm

Here's your first complaint

It sucks

name it something else

 

[Grant 302]

Here's your first complaint

It sucks

name it something else

Is that two complaints?

 

[blacksheep-1]

I try to offer solutions with my criticism

 

[byronj]

Here's your first complaint

It sucks

name it something else

bwahahah, thanks for making me spot my coffee out this morning.

 

[blacksheep-1]

I just read where the US auto industry is trying to go electric by 2035, I understand the whole environmental thing, no one wants to live in a dirty world, but I'm not sure that tanking capitalist economies is the way to do it. For instance, right now, today, the US is an energy producer, exporting for the first time in about 50 years. to stop that, or even throttle it, would not be in the best interest of those who work in that field, taxes collected or the economy in general, let alone we would need to start buying fuel from someplace else.. those that are old enough to remember OPEC oil embargos know exactly what I'm talking about. There's nothing like being held ransom by countries that hate you. On top of that, there are countries that don't nor ever intend to rely on alternative sources of energy, the population of those countries are ever increasing, China, India and the Pacific rim come to mind, and those countries could not possibly care less about emission standards, at least China pretends it does.. and that COVID came from bats.
The point is there is no reliable way to create or power a vehicle with a zero carbon footprint. The manufacture of them, the fueling, the lubrication, even the electric batteries and the generating of the power for those batteries has to come from someplace.
That doesn't mean we shouldn't try, but at what point do we decide the market should drive at least a portion of that? or do we just give it all away for some bureaucracy to make it happen, and if so, what will that do to the overseas markets for American cars that still rely on petroleum products? What do you do if your are poor, and there is no longer reliable, gasoline cars on the market? Should we expect the government to magically provide an alternative to them.. like the ever so successful California high speed rail?
This may come as a surprise to folks, but the government is not a reliable spender of money, they are driven by constantly changing political winds and are generally behind every curve you can imagine when it comes to markets and, they look to ever expand, the first thing government does is to take care of itself. Given politicians or the free market, the free market always wins, hands down.,
Since the Clean Air Act of 1970 the US auto industry has really taken it on the chin, at first because there was about a 5 year lead time in car design,( the CA act didn't account for that) so the auto industry created a lot of stop gap, half baked way to clean up the emissions, this also led to reliability problems and poor mileage, time that with the above mentioned oil embargo and almost overnight the US auto industry went from the penthouse to the outhouse, the door was kicked open for fuel efficient foreign cars that already met tight emission standards from Japan, the US industry never recovered from that. I read, years ago.. someplace that in 1970 the US auto industry was responsible for 1 in about 20 jobs, by the mid 80s it was 1 in almost 100.
Do we really want to do that again?

 

[honeybadger]

For those who want to watch it, Ford just released a documentary (28 minutes) showing how we designed and built this thing
You can see my stupid face in there, look for the GT350 or the Mach 1 t-shirts.

Super cool! Looks like FP learned a ton during the project. Excited to see how this all evolves.

I'm pumped for the electrification of cars. So much potential and I'll bet we get to see some very cool things come from not only EV, but the pressure it puts to innovate ICE-based vehicles for both consumer use and racing.

 

[TMSBOSS]

I'll bet we get to see some very cool things come from not only EV, but the pressure it puts to innovate ICE-based vehicles for both consumer use and racing.

Great point. Competition is competition regardless where it comes from. That combined with the trickle down of technology from both should be fun to watch.

 

[302BOB]

Every tyme I hear the phrase "electric cars" I think of racing slot cars as a kid.................senility comes and goes at this stage of the game............beer with me............

 

[blacksheep-1]

Every tyme I hear the phrase "electric cars" I think of racing slot cars as a kid.................senility comes and goes at this stage of the game............beer with me............

I still have a few.. great times

 

[JeffV8]

My dad use to race slot cars in the early 60’s. I had the Chaparral. What a difference to the new slot cars.

 

[Dave_W]

For those who want to watch it, Ford just released a documentary (28 minutes) showing how we designed and built this thing

The sound design is interesting. Was it cancelling the motor/gear noise as well? The straight-cut gearbox-like sound from the promo shoot didn't seem as apparent with the T-Pain audio. Though the generated sound vaguely reminded me of THX 1138.

Which makes me think that the sound files should be user-programmable. Aftermarket vehicle sound design could be a whole new tuner market.

Oh, and insert joke about T-Pain using auto-tune on a tuner car.

 

[honeybadger]

The sound design is interesting. Was it cancelling the motor/gear noise as well? The straight-cut gearbox-like sound from the promo shoot didn't seem as apparent with the T-Pain audio. Though the generated sound vaguely reminded me of THX 1138.

Which makes me think that the sound files should be user-programmable. Aftermarket vehicle sound design could be a whole new tuner market.

Oh, and insert joke about T-Pain using auto-tune on a tuner car.

When the original promo video came out, there was some commentary that they didn't have the sound work out yet and that's why they sort of "hid" it during the video.