S197 3V Fabman's build; How did we get here? Build Thread

[Fabman]

I wish I had taken over TMO before Photobucket screwed all the forums out there. On my other forums I was able to use a script that ran through all the embedded Photobucket images and convert them to attachments (so they lived on the site, instead of being hosted on Photobucket). I was able to save most of the images that way, but not all. Unfortunately, I wasn't around to do that here.

 

[CobaltFilly]

Whats this?
4" Brake cooling plates for s550?
Say it isn't so....

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Are these still for sale Sal? I will need a pair beginning of next year, I need to hose up my brakes.

 

[Fabman]

Are these still for sale Sal? I will need a pair beginning of next year, I need to hose up my brakes.

Yes, I have them in stock.

 

[Fabman]

Throwback Thursday:
Here’s an oldie but goodie….this is what I was up to in 2008.

 

[Dave_W]

Was that an actual Bud Moore car & transporter? Some nice looking cars, and yours looks stunning. Any significance to the early racecar (maybe a cut-down Model T Speedster)?

Is the music you as well? I really like the effects on the lead parts (except maybe the ultra-fuzz that seemed to suck the melody out of the signal and ended up almost like a bug zapper [ref 4:55]). If it's your work, I'm interested in what you used to get the sweepy wah/flange type of sound starting at 0:40 and the kind of (gated?) octave/super-fast flange/reverb starting at 3:05 - it's got enough happening it could be a Roland GR. Especially starting with the choppy part from 6:30 on, I got a serious early Rush vibe, like an extended form of one of their "interstitial movements" - like parts of Xanadu.

 

[Fabman]

Was that an actual Bud Moore car & transporter? Some nice looking cars, and yours looks stunning. Any significance to the early racecar (maybe a cut-down Model T Speedster)?

Is the music you as well? I really like the effects on the lead parts (except maybe the ultra-fuzz that seemed to suck the melody out of the signal and ended up almost like a bug zapper [ref 4:55]). If it's your work, I'm interested in what you used to get the sweepy wah/flange type of sound starting at 0:40 and the kind of (gated?) octave/super-fast flange/reverb starting at 3:05 - it's got enough happening it could be a Roland GR. Especially starting with the choppy part from 6:30 on, I got a serious early Rush vibe, like an extended form of one of their "interstitial movements" - like parts of Xanadu.Yes that was a bud Moore car. I don’t know anything about that old speedster, though it looks like it had some history. The music is something YouTube added as the music I added when I made the video wasn’t allowed by YouTube.

Yes that was a bud Moore car. I don’t know anything about that old speedster, though it looks like it had some history. The music is something YouTube added as the music I added when I made the video wasn’t allowed by YouTube.

 

[Fabman]

Was that an actual Bud Moore car & transporter? Some nice looking cars, and yours looks stunning. Any significance to the early racecar (maybe a cut-down Model T Speedster)?

Is the music you as well? I really like the effects on the lead parts (except maybe the ultra-fuzz that seemed to suck the melody out of the signal and ended up almost like a bug zapper [ref 4:55]). If it's your work, I'm interested in what you used to get the sweepy wah/flange type of sound starting at 0:40 and the kind of (gated?) octave/super-fast flange/reverb starting at 3:05 - it's got enough happening it could be a Roland GR. Especially starting with the choppy part from 6:30 on, I got a serious early Rush vibe, like an extended form of one of their "interstitial movements" - like parts of Xanadu.

Here you go:

 

[Junkyard Dog]

I am only up to your posts from January of 2017, but it sounds like back then you still had a blower (I can hear it whining on the fuel starvation thread), and none of your posts are discussing struggles with overhearing on the track.

Does that come up later?

Are you still running forced induction?

I am continuing to read, but I am on page 6 of 264 pages . . . lol.

 

[Ludachris]

I am only up to your posts from January of 2017, but it sounds like back then you still had a blower (I can hear it whining on the fuel starvation thread), and none of your posts are discussing struggles with overhearing on the track.

Does that come up later?

Are you still running forced induction?

I am continuing to read, but I am on page 6 of 264 pages . . . lol.

Nice job getting up to speed. Lots of knowledge in this thread alone.

 

[Fabman]

I am only up to your posts from January of 2017, but it sounds like back then you still had a blower (I can hear it whining on the fuel starvation thread), and none of your posts are discussing struggles with overhearing on the track.

Does that come up later?

Are you still running forced induction?

I am continuing to read, but I am on page 6 of 264 pages . . . lol.

You sir are a glutton for punishment....but good for you! There is more interesting stuff to come so don't give up!
The blower was on the 3 valve. I eventually went with an N/A Coyote motor. Took 150 pounds off the nose and added some 1500 RPM and the car was faster not to mention that the tires and brakes last a lot longer. lol.
I never had an issue with heat soak but I went through a lot of mods plus e85 to get the job done. What I tell people new to the sport is take all that money you were going to spend on horsepower and spend it on a good suspension setup and good brakes. You'll be a lot happier and faster in the end.

 

[Fabman]

I updated a few missing pics back on page 6 or 7 ish....

 

[Junkyard Dog]

You sir are a glutton for punishment....but good for you! There is more interesting stuff to come so don't give up!
The blower was on the 3 valve. I eventually went with an N/A Coyote motor. Took 150 pounds off the nose and added some 1500 RPM and the car was faster not to mention that the tires and brakes last a lot longer. lol.
I never had an issue with heat soak but I went through a lot of mods plus e85 to get the job done. What I tell people new to the sport is take all that money you were going to spend on horsepower and spend it on a good suspension setup and good brakes. You'll be a lot happier and faster in the end.

So one question, does E85 result in cooler running temperatures on track? There is a lot of debate about that, but little information. Yes, alcohol removes heat in the combustion chamber, but a lot of folks contend that does not translate into lower coolant or oil temperatures for some reason. I did find one guy (after hours of searching and searching on the internet) that claimed something like 3° C cooler on coolant temps using E85 as compared to 93 octane gasoline in a comparison, which seems like a lot for only a change of fuel.

Suspension and brakes - I hear you. Right now, though, I am starting with the Dark Horse handling package, which is already capable to a point well beyond my own meager capabilities when driving. My number one thing is more seat time (for which I need more time from work and more money, which, lol, paradoxically means more time at work).

I updated a few missing pics back on page 6 or 7 ish....

Thank you! I will go back and look.

 

[Ludachris]

My number one thing is more seat time (for which I need more time from work and more money, which, lol, paradoxically means more time at work).

That is by far the best early mod to invest in, especially with the car you have. And you yes, you have come across the great paradox many face.

 

[Fabman]

So one question, does E85 result in cooler running temperatures on track? There is a lot of debate about that, but little information. Yes, alcohol removes heat in the combustion chamber, but a lot of folks contend that does not translate into lower coolant or oil temperatures for some reason. I did find one guy (after hours of searching and searching on the internet) that claimed something like 3° C cooler on coolant temps using E85 as compared to 93 octane gasoline in a comparison, which seems like a lot for only a change of fuel.

Suspension and brakes - I hear you. Right now, though, I am starting with the Dark Horse handling package, which is already capable to a point well beyond my own meager capabilities when driving. My number one thing is more seat time (for which I need more time from work and more money, which, lol, paradoxically means more time at work).



Thank you! I will go back and look.

Yes, e85 runs cooler. No debate about it. It also lets you run more ignition timing so you make more power. It’s also less than half the cost of 100 octane racing fuel so for that reason alone it’s worth `it in my opinion.

 

[Ludachris]

Yes, e85 runs cooler. No debate about it. It also lets you run more ignition timing so you make more power. It’s also less than half the cost of 100 octane racing fuel so for that reason alone it’s worth `it in my opinion.

I think what he's asking though, is how much does E85 contribute to mitigating heat issues under the hood. Maybe I'm wrong?

 

[Fabman]

I think what he's asking though, is how much does E85 contribute to mitigating heat issues under the hood. Maybe I'm wrong?

I think it’s probably situationally dependent. The more fuel you are spraying the more you may benefit. I think @flyhalf would be a better ask as he has run both gasoline and e85 on track. I have been on e85 for probably 15 years and racing fuel before that.

 

[Fabman]

Suspension and brakes - I hear you. Right now, though, I am starting with the Dark Horse handling package, which is already capable to a point well beyond my own meager capabilities when driving. My number one thing is more seat time (for which I need more time from work and more money, which, lol, paradoxically means more time

That’s a very capable package. My comment about suspension is more of a general statement. So many new driver go straight for the horsepower adders when they need to be thinking about suspension/brakes. Seat time is king, of course, but the initial ask was about mechanicals, so that’s what I addressed.

 

[Fabman]

 

[Fabman]

Should be music on this….
I dunno….is it working?

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[Mad Hatter]

I don't know.... It looks like something Steven Seagal would wear......