My motor blew up......now what?

[docs302]

I use zero mishimoto stuff.
Fragola fittings and a Ford racing Adapter plate and remote filter.
I don't like any sandwich plates. They all look very restrictive inside.

The Mishimoto sandwich plate with current lines and stock radiator worked great for three years but never knew temps. It is a small plate. I don't know how or where to install a remote filter. Lines I can purchase and make. If you can give me some step by step instructions or pics on how it all comes together I can do it. I lost my job a month ago so I'm not paying someone stupid money to do this. I am having a hard time even finding a -AN12 sandwich plate and it will be way tight in that small recess with those lines.

You need more airflow through your grill to start with. The Boss grill doesn’t flow enough air with fog light covers installed (that’s why they are supposed to be removed for track use). Your other grill is probably a better choice.

Address the grill then the AN line and fitting size. You should also look at venting your hood. Race Louvers has sets for your car.

I have a Tiger Racing hood.

 

[Fabman]

It won't be as trick as the Fabman stuff, but you can create the ducting using plastic panels. It's much easier to work with.
I think this is what you are looking for.

https://www.tapplastics.com/custom-cut-to-size-plastic-sheets/polycarbonate-sheets

If not, I'm sure they can send you in the right direction. Make the panels out of cardboard first, then cut them out of the plastic using a saber or jig saw. Bend up some tabs, and get a pop rivetter and your a frabricator..
No one out there that I know of can match Fabman's skills.

Alumalite works well here too.

 

[docs302]

It won't be as trick as the Fabman stuff, but you can create the ducting using plastic panels. It's much easier to work with.
I think this is what you are looking for.

https://www.tapplastics.com/custom-cut-to-size-plastic-sheets/polycarbonate-sheets

If not, I'm sure they can send you in the right direction. Make the panels out of cardboard first, then cut them out of the plastic using a saber or jig saw. Bend up some tabs, and get a pop rivetter and your a frabricator..
No one out there that I know of can match Fabman's skills.

I am a little handy and like learning so I may try this. Yes.....Fabman I am not

 

[Fabman]

The Mishimoto sandwich plate with current lines and stock radiator worked great for three years but never knew temps. It is a small plate. I don't know how or where to install a remote filter. Lines I can purchase and make. If you can give me some step by step instructions or pics on how it all comes together I can do it. I lost my job a month ago so I'm not paying someone stupid money to do this. I am having a hard time even finding a -AN12 sandwich plate and it will be way tight in that small recess with those lines.

I have a Tiger Racing hood.

Sorry to hear about your job, that really sucks.

You probably won’t find a -12 sandwich plate.
I mounted mine on the outside of the frame rail.
The rear hose here was swapped to the front of the filter housing where that blue plug is. Everything I’ve done is chronicled in my build thread including part selections. There also is a couple oil cooler threads on here where this was recently covered.

Remember, my perspective pertains to race cars, not street cars.
Your mileage may vary.

 

[Fabman]

I am a little handy and like learning so I may try this. Yes.....Fabman I am not

Start with opening up the grill and ducting. If you are not turning crazy rpm like some of us are you might be ok with the -10 lines, I don’t know about that. I only know about full race stuff. Others here are more street oriented.

 

[docs302]

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2015-2024 5.0L COYOTE OIL LINE ADAPTOR

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M-6881-M50A

Ok, so I have the Gen3 block so we get M-6881-M50A and replace the current solenoid. What do we use for the oil filter mount? Any suggestions? As far as the sending unit, that I would need help understanding. Pics would help.

 

[docs302]

Start with opening up the grill and ducting. If you are not turning crazy rpm like some of us are you might be ok with the -10 lines, I don’t know about that. I only know about full race stuff. Others here are more street oriented.

My car is gutted and not street use. I will eventually be getting a cage. Wheel to wheel may happen at some point. I have removed anything I don't need so it's a race car at this point.

 

[docs302]

Sorry to hear about your job, that really sucks.

You probably won’t find a -12 sandwich plate.
I mounted mine on the outside of the frame rail.
The rear hose here was swapped to the front of the filter housing where that blue plug is. Everything I’ve done is chronicled in my build thread including part selections. There also is a couple oil cooler threads on here where this was recently covered.

Remember, my perspective pertains to race cars, not street cars.
Your mileage may vary.

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Ok thanks.......I will start going through your build. I have seen much of it but probably not everything. For me, I really need step by step guidance for stuff like this. Details matter for a nube.

Wish I could just bring it down the road to Marshall Mast at Phoenix and let him do it. I have the time right now but it will take me 4X the hours lol

 

[docs302]

Sorry to hear about your job, that really sucks.

You probably won’t find a -12 sandwich plate.
I mounted mine on the outside of the frame rail.
The rear hose here was swapped to the front of the filter housing where that blue plug is. Everything I’ve done is chronicled in my build thread including part selections. There also is a couple oil cooler threads on here where this was recently covered.

Remember, my perspective pertains to race cars, not street cars.
Your mileage may vary.

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You have 211 pages on your build to date lol. Any chance you can zero me in on where the oil filter relocation sits?

 

[Fabman]

You have 211 pages on your build to date lol. Any chance you can zero me in on where the oil filter relocation sits?

let me get back to you when i have time to do some research and writing....at the moment I need to deal with work

 

[2012-Boss]

Be careful with the Ford adapter on a Gen 3 block. At least on the 5.2L Gen 3 block (i.e. Predator block), one of the adapter ports does not align with the block ports requiring either porting of the block passage or of the adapter. Steve Esposito ported the adapter. I do not remember how it aligns with the 5.0L Gen 3 block ports.

The Moroso sandwhich plate has -12AN outlets. It is not advertised as such, but the one I had did have ports large enough for -12AN. The Setrab Hyperflow billet sandwich plates internal ports are larger than -12AN.

However, if you move to a remote filter, you can change to a FL1-A filter thread and run a Wix's racing filter.

 

[Fabman]

Be careful with the Ford adapter on a Gen 3 block. At least on the 5.2L Gen 3 block (i.e. Predator block), one of the adapter ports does not align with the block ports requiring either porting of the block passage or of the adapter. Steve Esposito ported the adapter. I do not remember how it aligns with the 5.0L Gen 3 block ports.

The Moroso sandwhich plate has -12AN outlets. It is not advertised as such, but the one I had did have ports large enough for -12AN. The Setrab Hyperflow billet sandwich plates internal ports are larger than -12AN.

However, if you move to a remote filter, you can change to a FL1-A filter thread and run a Wix's racing filter.

Mine is a gen 3 block with the gen 2 adapter...I don't remember any issues with fitment....maybe I missed something?
Maybe Shaun installed it I don't remember.....I'll, see if he remembers.

 

[302BOB]

Being at work and not doing anything was not an option at my job.....if that's something you can achieve retirement starts early for you............................

 

[docs302]

Be careful with the Ford adapter on a Gen 3 block. At least on the 5.2L Gen 3 block (i.e. Predator block), one of the adapter ports does not align with the block ports requiring either porting of the block passage or of the adapter. Steve Esposito ported the adapter. I do not remember how it aligns with the 5.0L Gen 3 block ports.

The Moroso sandwhich plate has -12AN outlets. It is not advertised as such, but the one I had did have ports large enough for -12AN. The Setrab Hyperflow billet sandwich plates internal ports are larger than -12AN.

However, if you move to a remote filter, you can change to a FL1-A filter thread and run a Wix's racing filter.

While a sandwich plate may not be ideal, at this moment I would prefer it so I can just plug and play with new lines. Remote can come later when I actually have play money left lol

 

[docs302]

let me get back to you when i have time to do some research and writing....at the moment I need to deal with work

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No hurry.....sitting here with nothing to do so I have to remember other folks are actually working lol

 

[Fabman]

No hurry.....sitting here with nothing to do so I have to remember other folks are actually working lol

too bad you're so far away, I could put you to work.

 

[302BOB]

Just an observation...The Fedex driver drives a lot faster than the UPS driver does down my street....do they get paid by the mile??????????

 

[67GTA]

Be careful with the Ford adapter on a Gen 3 block. At least on the 5.2L Gen 3 block (i.e. Predator block), one of the adapter ports does not align with the block ports requiring either porting of the block passage or of the adapter. Steve Esposito ported the adapter. I do not remember how it aligns with the 5.0L Gen 3 block ports.

Same on the Gen 3 5.0 blocks. I ported the engine block side before assembling the short block - pretty amazing how much material had to be removed for proper alignment.

 

[docs302]

too bad you're so far away, I could put you to work.

I would love to work in the shop!

 

[Fabman]

I would love to work in the shop!

There's quite an education on many topics here, we cover a lot of ground.