New Ford Performance 5.0L/5.2L GT500 Aluminum Oil Pan and Pump Kit

[steveespo]

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It does not have billet gears although they are supposedly stronger than the Coyote/Voodoo gears. They are also thicker by about 0,080" so 'Yote gears wont work. The pickup tube is about 1" I.D.

If they designed/tested them to function with the supercharger/7500 rpm limit in the GT500, they should be plenty strong for N/A 8000 rpm operations.

 

[steveespo]

Arrived. Beautiful piece.

 

[gtorpedo]

Nice, Steve. Get a chance to weigh the pan?

 

[JAJ]

What kind of oil drain plug does it have - the short-twist plastic piece or a threaded metal plug?

 

[steveespo]

What kind of oil drain plug does it have - the short-twist plastic piece or a threaded metal plug?

Metal bolt plug.



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[steveespo]

Nice, Steve. Get a chance to weigh the pan?

Not yet, I put it back in the box before Eric asked. will do it tomorrow after work.


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[TMSBOSS]

Steve

This looks like a nice piece. Interested in knowing how the install goes as well as you opinion of the pump. Will she hold up to Track Use??

Tracy

 

[Bill Pemberton]

I would echo Tracy's comments, hoping it has a substantial benefit for track usage.

 

[steveespo]

Both the pan and pump will be an upgrade over the GT350 pan and pump that are in the car currently. The Current setup has 5200 miles on it, 4800 of which are on track, including 5 total event days on high bank tracks (2 on Charlotte, 3 at Daytona). There have been no indications of oil pressure drop even at Daytona where the engine is 7000+ rpm continuously for over 15 seconds twice a lap. New pan has increased capacity, real trap door baffling and cast aluminum construction that should help shed some oil heat and act structurally to girdle the bottom end. The pump features .080" wider gears and supposedly a stronger material (haven't learned exactly what they are made of yet) to both increase volume flow and durability. If it is good enough to hold 760 Supercharged Horsepower I would imagine it will support 550 N/A HP.

 

[bauern]

One retailer has the kit for $700. but out of stock.

Shows in stock now.

 

[steveespo]

Weight of the pan and pickup tube is 19.4 lbs

 

[steveespo]

Steve

This looks like a nice piece. Interested in knowing how the install goes as well as you opinion of the pump. Will she hold up to Track Use??

Tracy

Tracy, we have mapped out the install which is pretty invasive but nothing @2012-Boss and I haven't done before. Will take the time to install a set of PAC valve springs while we have the engine out. "Go like Hell +8200!"

 

[JAJ]

Both the pan and pump will be an upgrade over the GT350 pan and pump that are in the car currently. The Current setup has 5200 miles on it, 4800 of which are on track, including 5 total event days on high bank tracks (2 on Charlotte, 3 at Daytona). There have been no indications of oil pressure drop even at Daytona where the engine is 7000+ rpm continuously for over 15 seconds twice a lap. New pan has increased capacity, real trap door baffling and cast aluminum construction that should help shed some oil heat and act structurally to girdle the bottom end. The pump features .080" wider gears and supposedly a stronger material (haven't learned exactly what they are made of yet) to both increase volume flow and durability. If it is good enough to hold 760 Supercharged Horsepower I would imagine it will support 550 N/A HP.

Thanks for replying on the drain plug - a better pan and a real drain plug - hard to do better than that.

The other question is the pump - is there any way to know if the new pickup fits the existing Voodoo pump? Seems to me that leaving the factory pump in place is a lot less invasive, is it not?

 

[TMSBOSS]

Tracy, we have mapped out the install which is pretty invasive but nothing @2012-Boss and I haven't done before. Will take the time to install a set of PAC valve springs while we have the engine out. "Go like Hell +8200!"

Steve

Interested in finding out the time needed for both upgrades as well as the cost to upgrade the springs. I checked with my dealer and the pan pump set is cheap considering what you get. In you opinion, what else needs to be “Freshened Up” on a 2012 Boss motor? Timing set?

 

[bauern]

Thanks for replying on the drain plug - a better pan and a real drain plug - hard to do better than that.

The other question is the pump - is there any way to know if the new pickup fits the existing Voodoo pump? Seems to me that leaving the factory pump in place is a lot less invasive, is it not?

Even if the pickup fit the Voodoo pump, there's no way of securing it to the pump. The pickup uses two bolts like the Coyote directly to the pump (as well as the support to the main). You would have to fit up a front tab like the Voodoo road race pickup.

Based on the photo of the kit, I don't see a main stud for the spacer included (for the rear support). For a Voodoo, you'll need to get this stud as well.

 

[steveespo]

Thanks for replying on the drain plug - a better pan and a real drain plug - hard to do better than that.

The other question is the pump - is there any way to know if the new pickup fits the existing Voodoo pump? Seems to me that leaving the factory pump in place is a lot less invasive, is it not?

No totally different configurations. I don’t think it will fit any other Coyote pump either the tube size is larger.


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[steveespo]

Steve

Interested in finding out the time needed for both upgrades as well as the cost to upgrade the springs. I checked with my dealer and the pan pump set is cheap considering what you get. In you opinion, what else needs to be “Freshened Up” on a 2012 Boss motor? Timing set?

If you haven’t done springs yet they should be done. I would do at least the chains and change the front sprocket to a forged steel one. The timing tensioners and guides next. I don’t think the phasers fail but if you are going in get the complete 2011-14 timing kit from Ford Performance and don’t worry. That’s about $600 in parts. To do the pan our plan is to drop the engine and trans out the bottom together on the K member by disconnecting and lifting the body off on a two post lift. Then take the engine and trans off the k member with an engine crane to do the pan work. Getting it out and ready to work on will take a day with a helper. Day two we tackle the valve springs then pump, pan and timing stuff and hopefully button it back up. Day three will be mating it back to the body, reinstalling the radiator, a/c parts, reconnecting hoses and wiring as well as reinstalling the intake manifold and CAI. It is a lot of work so if you can do it yourself with some help from friends you will save at least $1200 in labor. Plus you have the knowledge that you checked every bolt and timing mark and hose connection on the job.
Steve


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[TMSBOSS]

Steve

Thanks

My "Assistant" has worked on fords since the 70's. First as a line mechanic, shop foreman and service manager. So labor will cost a few lunches and dinners.

Parts?? Guessing around $2200.00 with PAC springs, timing parts and pan kit. Am I close?

 

[steveespo]

Steve

Thanks

My "Assistant" has worked on fords since the 70's. First as a line mechanic, shop foreman and service manager. So labor will cost a few lunches and dinners.

Parts?? Guessing around $2200.00 with PAC springs, timing parts and pan kit. Am I close?

About $2000 should get it done. Pan is $700, timing set is $550, crank sprocket is $100 (TSS) and PAC springs from Modular Head Service are $550. $100 for miscellaneous gaskets, coolant etc.


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[TMSBOSS]

Good. I may have to throw in a set of long tubes at the same time. Shaun still the go to guy for a tune?