S550 Radio Delete - Switch-Pros Install and custom Ignition Button - HELP!

[biggsy]

So I’ve been trying to make this work for some time also and sourcing different radio PCBs.

@honeybadger based on what you shared, power button is a simple switch closure and if you can get the CAN details then correct me if I’m wrong but a Can bus keypad and system like the link below should work? Tap into the CAN-HI and LO lines to interface with the respecting lines at the FCIM connector for steering, Advance Trac etc controls.

https://racewiresolutions.com/products/rws-raceconnect-ssr-8-button-keypad

 

[honeybadger]

So I’ve been trying to make this work for some time also and sourcing different radio PCBs.

@honeybadger based on what you shared, power button is a simple switch closure and if you can get the CAN details then correct me if I’m wrong but a Can bus keypad and system like the link below should work? Tap into the CAN-HI and LO lines to interface with the respecting lines at the FCIM connector for steering, Advance Trac etc controls.

https://racewiresolutions.com/products/rws-raceconnect-ssr-8-button-keypad

My thinking right now is a little can "box" that can intercept signal from something like that keypad (or a blink marine keypad, motec keypad, ecumaster, etc.) and then send the right CAN message to the Ford canbus. So for someone buying all the parts at once - you'd need a keypad, the canbus module, and the start button.

This does give me an idea, though. Should we explore just making something you can mount to a steering wheel? we could probably work something like this up to do it all?

 

[CobaltFilly]

My thinking right now is a little can "box" that can intercept signal from something like that keypad (or a blink marine keypad, motec keypad, ecumaster, etc.) and then send the right CAN message to the Ford canbus. So for someone buying all the parts at once - you'd need a keypad, the canbus module, and the start button.

This does give me an idea, though. Should we explore just making something you can mount to a steering wheel? we could probably work something like this up to do it all?

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That would be amazing. Or if it can convert to switch pros, that'd be great to. Either one.

 

[AJ Hartman]

What would be ideal to be able to control? Steering mode, exhaust mode, start button, anything else?

Basically anything the steering wheel can do would be universally cool. But generally if someone is swapping steering wheels its a racecar so only function like up down left right ok, drive mode... I think thats it and thats pretty much what the MMR box does.

 

[CobaltFilly]

Basically anything the steering wheel can do would be universally cool. But generally if someone is swapping steering wheels its a racecar so only function like up down left right ok, drive mode... I think thats it and thats pretty much what the MMR box does.

Oddly enough, calling MMR, their box only works on manual transmissions. Their explanation was "there is something in the box's board that doesn't allow us to make it compatible with an auto trans."

:/ I get stabbed at every opportunity.

 

[AJ Hartman]

Oddly enough, calling MMR, their box only works on manual transmissions. Their explanation was "there is something in the box's board that doesn't allow us to make it compatible with an auto trans."

:/ I get stabbed at every opportunity.

Oh! Good to know for future reference if anyone asks.

 

[honeybadger]

Oddly enough, calling MMR, their box only works on manual transmissions. Their explanation was "there is something in the box's board that doesn't allow us to make it compatible with an auto trans."

:/ I get stabbed at every opportunity.

Did they really not give you anymore of an explanation than that? that's lame

 

[CobaltFilly]

Did they really not give you anymore of an explanation than that? that's lame

Not that I really pushed any further - I did ask if they knew a way to move power button to switch pros or similar button pad, and they said that's complicated and you'd have to figure that one out, but that their pack wouldn't work on auto regardless.

 

[biggsy]

they have it for the A10 transmission. It includes paddle shifters so I assume there is something in the paddles that makes it more difficult.

The Switch Pro unit uses RS485 which is a different protocol than CAN. would need to figure out how to convert to CAN. With a lot of Motorsport electronics being CAN it will be difficult (not impossible) to find someone to know how to do it.

 

[biggsy]

My thinking right now is a little can "box" that can intercept signal from something like that keypad (or a blink marine keypad, motec keypad, ecumaster, etc.) and then send the right CAN message to the Ford canbus. So for someone buying all the parts at once - you'd need a keypad, the canbus module, and the start button.

This does give me an idea, though. Should we explore just making something you can mount to a steering wheel? we could probably work something like this up to do it all?

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My plan was to buy keypad and module. I like the steering wheel application. I would prefer the center stack application for my use. Since you mentioned the sniffer I’ve been looking into it. Didn’t know it was possible.

 

[CobaltFilly]

they have it for the A10 transmission. It includes paddle shifters so I assume there is something in the paddles that makes it more difficult.

The Switch Pro unit uses RS485 which is a different protocol than CAN. would need to figure out how to convert to CAN. With a lot of Motorsport electronics being CAN it will be difficult (not impossible) to find someone to know how to do it.

Geez, I live in Commie-fornia - I'll see around but that's a tall order.

Hopefully, one of ya'll figure something out and I can adapt it to my application or just buy a kit off you

 

[ccnncc99]

My thinking right now is a little can "box" that can intercept signal from something like that keypad (or a blink marine keypad, motec keypad, ecumaster, etc.) and then send the right CAN message to the Ford canbus. So for someone buying all the parts at once - you'd need a keypad, the canbus module, and the start button.

This does give me an idea, though. Should we explore just making something you can mount to a steering wheel? we could probably work something like this up to do it all?

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zestek has an s550 hub on preorder that i've been waiting on that is basically this - https://zestekracing.com/products/ford-zestek-scx-racing-steering-wheel-hub