Seats for HPDE

Discussion in 'S197 Technical Forum - GT, Boss 302 and GT500' started by Starjammir, Jan 1, 2017.

  1. Starjammir

    Starjammir TMO Intermediate

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    I need new seats for the mustang. I slide all around during track days. Now, I obviously drive the car to the track, wife says no cage just incase we need to take the baby somewhere, otherwise besides hpde events the car sits, I only put 800 miles on it last year, most to events or track miles. Seems like people keep going back and forth on fixed backs without a cage, can I use a fixed back with a hans and helmet with harness and no harness bar? I read somewhere someone makes a harness adapter without the bar. I cannot afford 3k plus for oem recaro seats. Otherwise it looks like there are no reclining seats that are crash tested within a reasonable (under $2k for a pair) I thought I'd ask here as you guys know a ton about this stuffl
     
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    You can buy used Recaros for about $1k. Post an ad here that you're looking for a set to buy. @voodoo child21

    Schroth makes a set of harnesses that connect to the rear lap belts. Pete at Track Day Solutions might be able to help you. @PeteInCT
     
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    I have the Schroth system in my daughters Mustang. It's a good substitute for a harness which requires a bar.

    It has passed tech a few times. Check with your track to ensure they accept before buying
     
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    I'm also in this dilemma and from what I've read using a harness without a rollbar is a bad idea because in the event of a rollover the three points allow you to sink into the seat if you will while the harness will not. Can anyone else speak to this?

    Jake
     
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    You could also try a CG lock for the oem 3 point.
     
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    The Schroth 3 point is definitely a compromise compared to a 5 or 6 point with a rollbar.

    Daughters Mustang is a V-6 and a bit slower than the Boss. Chances of rollover are slim. This system keeps the driver planted and provides better protection than OEM for all but rollover.
     
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    Any thoughts on the fixed back without the cage?
     
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    Mad Hatter Gotta go Faster

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    I like the Corbeau fixed seats. Very comfortabe and FIA. Have you thought about a Maximum Motor sports 6pt half cage?? With the harness bar and side bars off I still take the family out for dinner etc. I have the foam protectors over the bars.

    Sent from my SM-G900M using Tapatalk
     
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    I have not! I will check that out through! Did you leave your back seats in?
     
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    I have that same bar and it integrated well with the stock interior
    Mine had the welded in cross bar, but it's available with a bolt in as well.
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    Fabman Project: "Frankenstang"

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    One thing about seats....I originally purchased the FX1 WIDE RACING SEAT BY CORBEAU (for 40/42" waist) and they were so wide you couldn't close the door, so be aware that they do run very very wide. Hopefully you're slimmer, but if you are my size 38/40" waist you may want to get one of the smaller sizes or a different seat. I ended up with Kirkey Aluminum seats and love them, but mounting brackets had to be custom fabbed. Just an FYI.
     
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    Fixed back seats with no roll bar are generally frowned upon because in the event of a rollover and the roof comes crushing in you are stuck in there like a tent pole with nowhere to go. A non fixed seat is more likely to fold and give you some room when you need it most.
     
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    Mad Hatter Gotta go Faster

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    I agree 100%, once you start getting some speed its better to get a roll bar, harness and fixed seat. I am still at a 34" waist! so my regular Corbeau seat fits nice and snug. Even the Recaro seats are pretty heavy. When I swap in my race seat I am always amazed that they weigh at least twice as much as the fixed seat.

    Caution, don t get a cheapo seat. A race buddy is still not back from getting his lung punctured by a cheap Chinese knockoff seat several months ago. The crash was not that serious but the seat caused him lots of problems and a pretty major scare.
     
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    I've thought about this but having kids in the back with the bar makes me nervous. If there were an accident there would be a good chance of getting a head knocked.
     
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    Mad Hatter Gotta go Faster

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    I thought the same, but the foam covers you can get from MM are pretty decent. that, and the added protection from the bar is always a plus as well (this is with the bolt in harness bar out!).
     

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