Lap Time Thread

[flyhalf]

Have to agree with Kevin, my GT 350 was fine, as were both of my Boss 302s, and I do believe the issue is more likely that it is harder to keep an automatic cool ?

Well 2018 s550 has oil temp issue. Diff issue. And trans temp probably are related to the 10speed.

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[Duane Black]

I should clarify - if it’s not a purpose built track Ford (aforementioned) then it doesn’t cool. The automatic doesnt help. The new ecoboost mustangs can engage limp mode in as little as 10 minutes (with manual transmissions). The turbocharged fwd stuff is the same way

 

[Bill Pemberton]

Again, guys, did not see any issues with my Boss 302s ( neither a race car) or the GT 350 , so was just answering a blanket statement that no Factory Ford can take the heat that track events cause. Frankly considering all my friends and guys who do track Stangs , they usually seem to be alot stouter than many other vehicles on the track. Are some folks having issues , sure, not discounting that, but a blanket statement saying no Factory Ford can take it on a road course is not only incorrect in most cases , it is misleading. Have driven a variety of machines on track over 38 years and the reason I have purchased quite a few Mustangs over the past years is they are a riot outrunning so many cars the public does not think they can run with, and they are quite reliable. As mentioned, not discounting some folks having concerns, just personal bias when folks speak in absolutes ----no offense.

 

[Duane Black]

I ceded track cars were an exception, which to me are Boss 302 and GT350 which I know a 302 came with a better radiator and an oil cooler over the standard 5.0.

Maybe if i get energetic I’ll run a real oil temp and water gauge. I used the conputer cylinder head and oil temp gauge. Non number on oil, but i can get it red and on a longer session, water temp goes up (ford of course isnt a real gauge). It’s just as well, keeps brake heat down to back off at that point too. I’ve never engaged limp mode as I’ve known ecoboost cars to di. I’ve also had cylinder heads to 260 which I think is where the sensor maxed out.

I’d consider mu car an economy car making due. The ecoboost the same way. The ecoboost (mustang or focus st) get to the point they feel like you opened an oven on broil to me.

The 302 was intended to be pushed. Hell it had a track key.

 

[Bill Pemberton]

Sorry, Duane, this is just a helpful Forum and I was just standing up for the Ford faithful since you stated no Fords. Since that was not your intention, and you were trying to describe something else,, I understand your frustration-- I would be too and I was not discounting your problems. Hang in there and I think we were both reading between the lines, and noticed your edit to explain your intent - understand my friend.

 

[Duane Black]

Hell if it was a GM it would just break an oil pump....

 

[Bill Pemberton]

Or go into limp mode after 3 -4 laps if in a ZR1,ha.

 

[JDee]

I you read the Ford owner manual about page 13 or so it gives guidelines for track use, at least mine does. And if you stick with those guidelines you'll not likely have any overheat issues, other than possibly the diff on very hot days. Power adders change everything, especially blowers, it's a pipe dream to think you can boost power by 25% or more and not have consequences.

I just think tracking an old school auto (that excludes DCTs) is a recipe for disaster, unless you add auxiliary coolers and even then it's not a good idea. Those transmissions are just not meant for that purpose. If you want a track car buy the right tool for the job.

 

[LAPTIMZ]

Track: Buttonwillow CW13
Date: 3/31/2018
Best Time: 1:55.4
Source: AiM SOLO DL // Transponder
Car: 2017 GT350
Tires: 305 Square Goodyear F1 Supercar 3R
Wheels: OEM
Brakes: ST43 pads
Suspension: MM Camber Plates, BMR Camber bolts (4.3 front // 2.9 rear), FP springs, FP Sways
Aero: APR GT250 wing, Capaldi Racing Front Splitter
Power: Stock everything, no tune

 

[flyhalf]

Track: Buttonwillow CW13
Date: 3/31/2018
Best Time: 1:55.4
Source: AiM SOLO DL // Transponder
Car: 2017 GT350
Tires: 305 Square Goodyear F1 Supercar 3R
Wheels: OEM
Brakes: ST43 pads
Suspension: MM Camber Plates, BMR Camber bolts (4.3 front // 2.9 rear), FP springs, FP Sways
Aero: APR GT250 wing, Capaldi Racing Front Splitter
Power: Stock everything, no tune

What a great lap!

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[ArizonaBOSS]

Or go into limp mode after 3 -4 laps if a ZR1,ha.

Bill--that's not fair.
















It's the Z06 that overheats

 

[ArizonaBOSS]

Here are my best laps from Buttonwillow this past weekend.

CW13 - 1:52.31

1CCW - 1:58.45

 

[flyhalf]

Here are my best laps from Buttonwillow this past weekend.

CW13 - 1:52.31

1CCW - 1:58.45

That's great. I'm " ONLY[emoji28]" 5 SEC AWAY

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[ArizonaBOSS]

That's great. I'm " ONLY[emoji28]" 5 SEC AWAY

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If it makes you feel any better, the fastest guy in my class was a C5 Vette w/ LS3 and 315/345mm tires running 1:47s...and I already posted the video of the other guy running 1:45...so we all have room to improve

 

[flyhalf]

If it makes you feel any better, the fastest guy in my class was a C5 Vette w/ LS3 and 315/345mm tires running 1:47s...and I already posted the video of the other guy running 1:45...so we all have room to improve

"Find a cool excuse find a cool excuse"..
Ehmm i didn't have the right stiff springs..[emoji16]

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[Badger]

Going that low on this track with a heavy car with a high center of gravity is tough. Miata absolutely murder our cars through cotton corners and grape vine. Sub 1:50 is a thing, but 1:45 will be very very hard. Who ran a 1:45?

 

[ArizonaBOSS]

Going that low on this track with a heavy car with a high center of gravity is tough. Miata absolutely murder our cars through cotton corners and grape vine. Sub 1:50 is a thing, but 1:45 will be very very hard. Who ran a 1:45?

Bill Brinkop. ST2 Vette driver, ex(?) Supermiata guy.

 

[neema]

Good stuff Drew. Wish I could've made it out to say hi.

 

[Pbrmeasap]

Track: Daytona 24 hour road course
Date: 4/6/19
Best Time: 2:04.7
Source: TrackAddict with Garmin gps
Car: 2018 GT350R
Tires: 305/315 SC2's
Wheels: OEM CF
Brakes: ST45 pads
Suspension: MM Camber plates (2.4 front // 1.5 rear)
Watson roll bar. MGW shift kit. All else stock.

Over the two day Celebration exotic car / Make-A-Wish charity event, gave 7 passenger ride alongs. Final session was solo and beat my best time at Daytona by .2 seconds. Top speed through start/finish was 172. Car performed flawlessly over the two days of being run very hard.

 

[flyhalf]

Track: Daytona 24 hour road course
Date: 4/6/19
Best Time: 2:04.7
Source: TrackAddict with Garmin gps
Car: 2018 GT350R
Tires: 305/315 SC2's
Wheels: OEM CF
Brakes: ST45 pads
Suspension: MM Camber plates (2.4 front // 1.5 rear)
Watson roll bar. MGW shift kit. All else stock.

Over the two day Celebration exotic car / Make-A-Wish charity event, gave 7 passenger ride alongs. Final session was solo and beat my best time at Daytona by .2 seconds. Top speed through start/finish was 172. Car performed flawlessly over the two days of being run very hard.

How you like the st45? Have u ever had experience with GLOC? If yes how would you compare them?

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