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OOooh....walls. No thank you.blacksheep-1 said:
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A funny thing happened to my brakes at the race track
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That's kind of what I figured, all that heat and no way to dissipate it.blacksheep-1 said:
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Fabman said:
All and any of those should work for everything but the ABS 'block' part of the system. Not for the electric module itself, but for the 'block'/manifold part where all the hydraulic lines go into.
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From what I've been told, the controller module won't bolt up unless you have an 07+ GT500 ABS distribution block. It won't mate to a "regular" 05-09 Mustang GT ABS distribution block (until the GT500 and Mustang GT distribution blocks became "unified" under a single PN in 2011 (might extend to MY2010), but these use a different PN controller anyways).
For "best" performance you will probably want to switch to the 07-09 GT500 master and booster too.
Here is a little more info on the FR500S side of things: https://performanceparts.ford.com/download/PDFS/FR500/Parts_Info_FR500S_v1.pdf (Note that "ECU" under brake section is what I am referring to as the "controller")
Here is the full parts listing from TMS: https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/50107790/fr500s-master-parts-list-the-mustang-source-ford-mustang-forums
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Well, first the bad news:
Everything is melted and cracked. Pads, rotors and calipers. Doubt I'll save much besides the rims and tires.
Now for the good news.....oh wait, there isn't any good news :'(
Everything is melted and cracked. Pads, rotors and calipers. Doubt I'll save much besides the rims and tires.
Now for the good news.....oh wait, there isn't any good news :'(
Wow that is one expensive red flag for you. This is a good reminder to take the "cool down" lap seriously.
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Well, I certainly won't do THAT again.....but a red flag is a red flag. You stop.VoodooBOSS said:
In oval track you can see the whole track so you know where the wreck is....here I had no idea and didn't want to plow into somebody.....next time I'll just hit 'em.
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no but I've seen them in some passenger cars. Where do you get them?TMSBOSS said:
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KNS, sponsor vender here. I bought from Girodisc before KNS listed the shims.
They do help considerably but you need to watch rotor and pad thickness. With DBA rotors and new pads, I have to break in the pads befor I can add both shims. With Girodisc rotors the shins slide right in.
They do help considerably but you need to watch rotor and pad thickness. With DBA rotors and new pads, I have to break in the pads befor I can add both shims. With Girodisc rotors the shins slide right in.
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Could it be a issue with the Baer brakes?? I was looking at a set a while back but was advised that they are more of a street setup?
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Damn!
What setup were you running? If you weren't yet on Brembos, you should be able to find an upgrade setup fairly inexpensively from OEM stock, Wilwood, StopTech, or Brembo Race, depending on how much money you want to spend.
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14" Baer 6 piston Pro + and DTC 60 pads. I am surprised how quickly they melted, the other 2 cars stopped in the same place as I did and I assume their brakes didn't melt? Sure I have more MPH and I'm heavier so of course it's harder on brakes, but that just means that just tells me I'm too close to the failure threshold and they aren't up to the task.ArizonaBOSS said:
I mean, 2 laps?
I need to figure out where to go from here. I notice you didn't mention Baer in your recommendations....
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This may be an issue....I will be on the phone with Baer today.Mad Hatter said:
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I think a set of Brembo race front brakes may be in your future.......
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To be honest, I don't see their kits out in real competition anywhere (save for the K&N #32 AI build, which the driver was complaining of brake fade issues on a short track out here in AZ) and I've never been impressed with what you get for the money. IMO their kits are just "bling" and consumable replacement costs are on-par with more proven setups--so you're paying the same but getting less performance.
Wilwood, StopTech, Brembo are all race-proven setups. I'd recommend the Brembo Race kit if you have unlimited $$$; but you will be able to find capable hardware from any of those manufuacturers.
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Damn, that blows dude. Glad you figured it out and it didn't end up worse during the rest of your track time this weekend.
+1 for titanium shims, I have them on my Boss and also got them from Girodisc (KNS was out of stock when I ordered them). I haven't had install issues with pad thickness running Pagid RST2 front pads.
+1 for titanium shims, I have them on my Boss and also got them from Girodisc (KNS was out of stock when I ordered them). I haven't had install issues with pad thickness running Pagid RST2 front pads.
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Could have been worse, I could have run into the back of your new car!mprichar87 said:
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Damn. I was afraid of that when I mentioned going through everything. Nowhere for the heat to go at a dead stop. Pulling a car down from 140+ would probably get spot temps up well over 1,000º F. Might even be prudent to have your hubs and struts checked. They really don't like that kind of heat exposure. And I've baked grease right out of the front hubs before.
And +1 on the titanium shims. They really do help insulate all the seals and fluid.
Ti shims are good stuff.
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