S197 3V Fabman's build; How did we get here? Build Thread

[Fabman]

Ahhh,,, forgot abut that .. I deleted the word Forgestar from my memory banks after buying some 18x12s for some Camaros. Not a pleasant buying experience.

Beggars can't be choosers...

 

[Mad Hatter]

Apex fixed my wheel blues. Not going to go to a wider wheel and time soon. And it if I do, it would be because Apex comes out with a 18x12.

 

[Fabman]

Apex fixed my wheel blues. Not going to go to a wider wheel and time soon. And it if I do, it would be because Apex comes out with a 18x12.

I've tried....no 18x12s

 

[Mad Hatter]

yup. maybe one day. But not too soon, have too many things on my "TO GET" list as it is.

 

[Fabman]

yup. maybe one day. But not too soon, have too many things on my "TO GET" list as it is.

I feel ya.

 

[Albino500]

Did you get your CorteX rear end parts yet?

 

[Fabman]

Did you get your CorteX rear end parts yet?

Not yet...

 

[Fabman]

Every Day I'm not racing:

 

[Fabman]

This time I’m using the good stuff.
Amsoil is amazing in my transmission, no more missed shifts or popping out of gear.
Let’s see how it does in the power steering.
I really need to finish these next few races.

 

[Fabman]

My absolute favorite part of racing is wrenching on sh*t.
Oh wait….no it’s not.

 

[Fabman]

And there it is....a brand new FR500 Rack and pump. (@Albino500 has EVERYTHING is that shed of his)

Just get me through this last race weekend baby and I promise to buy you a brand new BOSS 302s Electric rack just as soon as they are available from Ford.

 

[Coz]

BOSS 302s Electric rack

Is there any difference in the operation of the 302S rack versus the others? I thought the only difference between the various versions was the internal stops to prevent the models with the wider wheels/tires from rubbing when going from lock to lock. Something that can be tailored using the Roush kit:

2005-2014 Roush Mustang Steering Rack Stops & Clamps Kit

This Mustang Steering Rack Stops & Clamps Kit is a required for 2005-2014 Mustangs using ROUSH® 20-inch wheels.

www.roushperformance.com

 

[Fabman]

Is there any difference in the operation of the 302S rack versus the others? I thought the only difference between the various versions was the internal stops to prevent the models with the wider wheels/tires from rubbing when going from lock to lock. Something that can be tailored using the Roush kit:

2005-2014 Roush Mustang Steering Rack Stops & Clamps Kit

This Mustang Steering Rack Stops & Clamps Kit is a required for 2005-2014 Mustangs using ROUSH® 20-inch wheels.

www.roushperformance.com

The programming is different. It’s tuned for racing with big sticky tires. Beyond that I don’t know but that’s what Filip from cortex said to use so that’s what I’m going with.

 

[Fabman]

Did you get your CorteX rear end parts yet?

Its shipping tomorrow. Should have it in about a week.

 

[Fabman]

Apex fixed my wheel blues. Not going to go to a wider wheel and time soon. And it if I do, it would be because Apex comes out with a 18x12.

The difference in width between a 295, 315 and a 335 is only about an inch.
Going from a 10" wheel/295/30 tire to an 11" wheel/315/30 tire is a no brainer.
Going to a 12" wheel/335 is a bunch of work to get things to fit properly, and very limited sources for wheels and flares, more expensive tires etc. so it's much less of a clear choice there. I did it because I had that monster blower motor at the time, but now that I'm N/A stock coyote, it's much less necessary.
Had I the N/A Coyote to start with I don't think I would have bothered with the 12's although at that time Apex hadn't come out with the 11's so its was go big or go home for me.

(Last 2 columns are tread width and overall diameter)

 

[Mad Hatter]

Interesting. that sort of comfirms what I saw here at the track. My camaro buddies in a pair of zl1s went to 18x12 wheels with 335/30-18 hoosiers and to be honest, the lap times where not that differnet as they were in 19x11 inch 295/315 hoosiers. I looks like it was not worth the effort.

I'll stick with the 315 r7 for now... Or maybe the 300/680-18 Zestino slicks I have yet to try out. They are almost identical in size to the 315 R7's. Hope to cycle them in well before Oct 17, my next race.

 

[302BOB]

MH, whatever you choose, you can't lose, you have that racing spirit in your soul........that's something to cherish....................

 

[Fabman]

Interesting. that sort of comfirms what I saw here at the track. My camaro buddies in a pair of zl1s went to 18x12 wheels with 335/30-18 hoosiers and to be honest, the lap times where not that differnet as they were in 19x11 inch 295/315 hoosiers. I looks like it was not worth the effort.

I'll stick with the 315 r7 for now... Or maybe the 300/680-18 Zestino slicks I have yet to try out. They are almost identical in size to the 315 R7's. Hope to cycle them in well before Oct 17, my next race.

A good driver in a well setup car is hard to beat, an extra inch of tire isn't going to matter much.
Case in point, look at the Phonex boys. Very stockish mustangs going super fast....I mean SUPER fast.
In the end, Talent trumps all.

 

[Mad Hatter]

A good driver in a well setup car is hard to beat, an extra inch of tire isn't going to matter much.
Case in point, look at the Phonex boys. Very stockish mustangs going super fast....I mean SUPER fast.
In the end, Talent trumps all.

Yup that S197's lap times are phenomenal.....Or I should say "that" drivers times are phenomenal.

My friend bought a competitors gen 5 Camaro track car for his 19 son. The kid has been winning at the track since he was 15 years old in small hondas and the like. His second day out ever in a rear wheel drive car and his best time was 2 seconds faster then mine. The cars previous owner never got close to that. Talent!!! Us normal people just have to work hard to do ok... Oh well, maybe I should have started 30 years earlier!!

 

[Mad Hatter]

who am I kidding 40 years earlier....