Ford Racing Suspension Upgrades

[BackInBlack]

I already ordered this one. Are they pretty much the same length, side to side?

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I didn't measure, but I did place them side to side and they look the same. Maybe a slight difference in the bends... don't remember. But it fit perfectly.

 

[Fat Boss]

OK cool. I'll get the one you recommended. Thanks!

 

[BackInBlack]

OK cool. I'll get the one you recommended. Thanks!

I'm using a stock intake hose FYI.

Here's a picture of the hose attached to an Airaid tube I used for a little while. It fits a little loose on the Airaid tube, but that's the tube's fault. The tube was designed for the GT and needs an adapter to work on the Boss manifold. But this is what it looks like. It fits snugly on the OEM Boss tube.

 

[Fat Boss]

I'm using the stock intake. Thanks for all the help!

 

[Fat Boss]

Can anyone identify these LCA's in the front? They appear to be BMR red, but I don't see them on their website.

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[BackInBlack]

Can anyone identify these LCA's in the front? They appear to be BMR red, but I don't see them on their website.

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Looks like BMR to me

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Maybe an older design?

 

[Fat Boss]

Yeah, it's just a different design maybe.

 

[drunkonunleaded]

Looking for some guidance here. New to me 09 Bullitt with GT500 Brembos, 18x10 Apex Wheels, and 275 ECS 02s.

My intention was to have a solid platform that I can progress with. Car will be used for mostly HPDE with the occasional weekend drive. I intend to drive the car to events within a ~3 hour radius. While I could trailer the car, I am looking to keep things simple for now.

After a few months and street driving, I find that the car wallows and generally handles like a boat at freeway speeds. I'd like to tighten things up a bit. That has led me to dampers and sway bars.

The FRPP Handling Pack seems to be a one and done setup (for now) for around $2000. I already have FRPP LCAs and LCA relocation brackets. In theory, I should be able to bolt this all together and go. My only concern here is front camber. Based upon what I've seen here, this kit tops out at -1.5*, which isn't really enough to keep front tires alive. This can be remedied by some Vorshlag camber plates and another $700 or so.

If I'm going to go that far, is it worth looking at other options? Am I better off going with Bilsteins, "P" springs, and the Vorshlag plates to replicate the old Vorshlag Street Pro setup and pair this with the FRPP/Eibach bars or similar? This could be put together for around $2900. Effectively, we're subbing the "Multimatic" struts for BIlstein.

The last option I'm considering is the Vorshlag Street or Track Pro H&R Coilover Kit. Shocks/Struts here will run about $3000. Add in a few hundred for a panhard (I'll likely go with Ford to avoid heims and match the LCAs) and some kind of sway bar.

This car has been more of a "buy once, cry once" build within reason. I'm leaning towards the Vorshlag coilovers, but I am open to input both regarding the options above and also which bar(s) to pair with the H&R kit. It seems to me that the P spring-based kits adhere to the "soft springs, stiff bars" philosophy while the H&R setup is something else entirely. My concern is due to the higher spring rates Vorshlag spec'd that going with thicker bars may adversely affect the car.

FWIW, I am coming from a Neon ACR as my track/Auto-X car and a C5 Z06 on the street, so this platform and its idiosyncrasies is entirely new to me. Common wisdom to me would spec a thicker rear bar, but form my understanding smaller bars may work better on these cars due to the SRA. I understand that spring rate has a lot to do with this and therefore, I am looking to build a more comprehensive package vs. simply fire the parts cannon at the car.

In the future, I plan to add a torsen and move up to 18x11s and 315s but that is farther down the line.

 

[Mike_FL]

I would go for Vorshlags H&R track pro kit especially if you want to run a wider tire which would be better with the higher spring rate 450F/175R

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[drunkonunleaded]

I would go for Vorshlags H&R track pro kit especially if you want to run a wider tire which would be better with the higher spring rate 450F/175R

Vorshlag TrackPro Suspension Kit (S197 Mustang)

Introduction If you've looked at the StreetPro package, using the standard springs in the H&R Street Performance kit and wanted better spring rates that were more balanced and tailored to track use, this is the kit for you. We swap out the H&R springs that are too soft up front and too stiff in...

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Good point RE spring rate and tires, thanks for pointing that out. That’s exactly why I asked.

Any guidance on which sways to pair with these? I plan to ask Terry when I call and order, but I’m open to suggestions.

 

[Mike_FL]

I run an Eibach 3 way adjustable on the front and oem in the rear. I might go for a smaller bar on the rear.
You don’t want too stiff sway bar on the rear of an s197 as it can promote oversteer.

 

[Dave_W]

FWIW, I am coming from a Neon ACR as my track/Auto-X car

Long shot, but by any chance would that be a black '96 coupe, formerly owned by Mark Daddio? I think he sold it to someone in the Michigan area.