off topic, but I'm surprised the event/safety coordinators allowed you to run with your windows up and AC going. The only time I've ever been allowed to run with windows up was with heavy rain - otherwise, if you want to cool off they told you to go faster!

blacksheep-1 said:

I know I'm late to the party here, but one of the things that I always advocate for is to use the factory to develop your parts, this was true back in the Pirelli World Challenge days and the S197 platform, the rule book, and the way Ford responded by developing those parts, pretty much took the RnD out of everything, including things like aero loading/balance..you just copied what the factory did. I would still recommend this for the S550 n S650 cars. The GT4 cars really are production cars and have been in a tunnel, so if you're looking for ideas, just copy them.

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Overall agree, which is part of why the GTD hood appealed to me.

Deadly0ne said:

off topic, but I'm surprised the event/safety coordinators allowed you to run with your windows up and AC going. The only time I've ever been allowed to run with windows up was with heavy rain - otherwise, if you want to cool off they told you to go faster!

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This was a Hooked On Driving event. Not sure about the rest of the country, but at least for the midwest region they allow windows up.

How do you provide point by?

Junkyard Dog said:

How do you provide point by?

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Turn signals. You work them just like a point by, signal on the side you want the car to pass on.

[insert joke about cars like BMWs where turn signals are either not installed or the owners seem to not know how to use them]

It's especially nice if you have an instructor in the car since you can more easily hear each other without coms, and it makes the video quality higher. I posted a video of my fastest lap time (windows down) in my lap time thread for 1:57.490.

TheTed said:

Turn signals. You work them just like a point by, signal on the side you want the car to pass on.

[insert joke about cars like BMWs where turn signals are either not installed or the owners seem to not know how to use them]

It's especially nice if you have an instructor in the car since you can more easily hear each other without coms, and it makes the video quality higher. I posted a video of my fastest lap time (windows down) in my lap time thread for 1:57.490.

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LOL, that would take some getting used to by me if I was the overtaking car. Oh, no! He just indicated that he is changing lanes into me on the side on which I am passing him!

Junkyard Dog said:

LOL, that would take some getting used to by me if I was the overtaking car. Oh, no! He just indicated that he is changing lanes into me on the side on which I am passing him!

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For me it isn't difficult having been on both the giving and receiving end of turn signal point-bys. It's covered in the drivers meeting, and if you think about it, a normal point-by is using hand turn signals in the same opposite manner. I haven't heard any complaints, although I don't know what percentage of people were going with the windows up. Probably higher than normal given the temps.

I imagine most of the rest of my sessions this year will have windows open, unless it's raining.

Deadly0ne said:

off topic, but I'm surprised the event/safety coordinators allowed you to run with your windows up and AC going. The only time I've ever been allowed to run with windows up was with heavy rain - otherwise, if you want to cool off they told you to go faster!

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Do they prevent you from starting if there is water from AC condensation dripping under the car while in the staging lanes?

Junkyard Dog said:

Do they prevent you from starting if there is water from AC condensation dripping under the car while in the staging lanes?

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Not at HOD. I didn't see anyone looking under the car for drips while staging either, but nobody got waved off for that that I could tell. I also have sat with the windows down and AC on while staging for other events on hot days where windows up isn't allowed, and nobody has ever said anything, even when I've been at the front of the line on a humid day where I'm sure there's a puddle forming under the car. Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen anyone get flagged off and told not to take the track on any track session I've participated in.

Decades ago (we're talking probably around the year 2000) a friend of mine was running the AC while driving on the track, and he did get flagged while driving on track from the AC dripping, at least that was the story he told. I didn't question it too much at the time, but now I wonder how visible the condensation dripping under the car would actually be on track to a corner worker. I have no idea, having never done that job, but it seems like it wouldn't be particularly noticeable. The car was a highly customized twin-supercharged V12 Jaguar XJ-S, so it's also possible it had an oil leak somewhere.