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ARCHETYPE RACING - VOODOO/COYOTE/PREDATOR Oil Balancing Hoses

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3-5 Years
Scottsdale, AZ
Received the kit yesterday and proceeded with install (motor in the car). Pretty straightforward once the IM is removed, it is tight back there but a 16MM flex head ratcheting wrench and 1/4" hex bit made it totally doable. I got mine 95% of the way there, but as I was tightening down the last hose end I managed to slightly cross thread one of the pipe-AN thread adapters...easy to do since you can't really see what your doing and the fittings are of course made of aluminum. Take your time and this won't be an issue!

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Southern California
Received the kit yesterday and proceeded with install (motor in the car). Pretty straightforward once the IM is removed, it is tight back there but a 16MM flex head ratcheting wrench and 1/4" hex bit made it totally doable. I got mine 95% of the way there, but as I was tightening down the last hose end I managed to slightly cross thread one of the pipe-AN thread adapters...easy to do since you can't really see what your doing and the fittings are of course made of aluminum. Take your time and this won't be an issue!

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Thanks for the info and the heads up! I just ordered mine today. Glad to hear it isn't a massive PITA if the IM is removed.
 

EIGHTLUG

https://www.archetyperacing.com
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Received the kit yesterday and proceeded with install (motor in the car). Pretty straightforward once the IM is removed, it is tight back there but a 16MM flex head ratcheting wrench and 1/4" hex bit made it totally doable. I got mine 95% of the way there, but as I was tightening down the last hose end I managed to slightly cross thread one of the pipe-AN thread adapters...easy to do since you can't really see what your doing and the fittings are of course made of aluminum. Take your time and this won't be an issue!

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Replacement adaptor is being mailed out today. No charge to you, gtorpedo!
 

EIGHTLUG

https://www.archetyperacing.com
Supporting Vendor
Does anyone have confirmation that these will fit on a Gen2 Coyote yet? I just shot Archetype an email asking them to confirm.

Thanks!
Jake
Hey, Jake. I did receive your email. I do not have a Gen 2 Coyote in my possession to confirm if the heads have the threaded plugs or not. With an inspection mirror, you would be able to look at the back of your heads and verify for the entire community. It seems that the Coyotes maybe aren't as consistent, from what I've seen in the Facebook post, and a quick look to verify would be beneficial.

Thanks,
Curtis
 

Jwodon

Jake
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3-5 Years
Collegeville, PA
Hey Matt,

Thanks for the quick reply. I have a new intake manifold on the way, so when I tear off the stock one in a few days I'll take a look and reply to the thread to confirm for you and future customers. Thanks!
 

EIGHTLUG

https://www.archetyperacing.com
Supporting Vendor
Hey Matt,

Thanks for the quick reply. I have a new intake manifold on the way, so when I tear off the stock one in a few days I'll take a look and reply to the thread to confirm for you and future customers. Thanks!
You're a gentleman and a scholar. 👍
 
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SoCal
Dumb question of the night - does the oil have to be drained for this install? My guess would be that most oil in the head will likely drain down to the pan, but then started second guessing it. I’m in between oil changes, so will just wait if it needs to be drained. Otherwise on a 2014, this looks like it will be a simple install without removing anything for access.
 
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HPDE
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3-5 Years
Scottsdale, AZ
Hey Matt,

Thanks for the quick reply. I have a new intake manifold on the way, so when I tear off the stock one in a few days I'll take a look and reply to the thread to confirm for you and future customers. Thanks!
Confirmed install on my 2015 Mustang GT (Gen 2 Coyote), the plugs are there so would be 99.9% sure you can proceed as well.
 

EIGHTLUG

https://www.archetyperacing.com
Supporting Vendor
Dumb question of the night - does the oil have to be drained for this install? My guess would be that most oil in the head will likely drain down to the pan, but then started second guessing it. I’m in between oil changes, so will just wait if it needs to be drained. Otherwise on a 2014, this looks like it will be a simple install without removing anything for access.
That's an honest question. The answer is you do not need to drain your oil to perform this install. You may only get one drip of oil out of each plug, by the time the engine is cool enough to work on.
 
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Under 3 Years
SoCal
Completed the install on my 2014 this weekend without removing anything to get at the plugs. Outside port on the drivers side was the most difficult - this one has the tightest access, and it requires removing the bolt that secures the knock sensor. I didn’t remove the sensor - just rotated it 90 degrees or so, allowing clearance to get a wrench on the threaded adapter. I borrowed a picture that @Coz posted earlier so you can see which sensor bolt I’m talking about - see below.

So onto my next question, but first a bit of background. I ran Chuckwalla on Sunday and first session out, the car went into limp mode with a solid wrench light on the dash. This has never happened. Had to pull off to the side, shut the car completely off and restart it so that i could even drive it back to the paddock. Quick Google check was pointing at potentially a dirty throttle body. Pulled the intake tube, and sure enough there was a fair amount of oil on the blade and housing. I have a separator installed on the passenger side, however the driver side PCV hose still feeds into the OE intake tube. I rarely get much oil in the passenger side can, but it had probably 3-4 ounces in it. Is this a normal byproduct of the increased oil flow from the balancing hoses? I’ve been considering the Watson Racing Peterson catch for a while now, but it may have just moved up the priority list.

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Completed the install on my 2014 this weekend without removing anything to get at the plugs. Outside port on the drivers side was the most difficult - this one has the tightest access, and it requires removing the bolt that secures the knock sensor. I didn’t remove the sensor - just rotated it 90 degrees or so, allowing clearance to get a wrench on the threaded adapter. I borrowed a picture that @Coz posted earlier so you can see which sensor bolt I’m talking about - see below.

So onto my next question, but first a bit of background. I ran Chuckwalla on Sunday and first session out, the car went into limp mode with a solid wrench light on the dash. This has never happened. Had to pull off to the side, shut the car completely off and restart it so that i could even drive it back to the paddock. Quick Google check was pointing at potentially a dirty throttle body. Pulled the intake tube, and sure enough there was a fair amount of oil on the blade and housing. I have a separator installed on the passenger side, however the driver side PCV hose still feeds into the OE intake tube. I rarely get much oil in the passenger side can, but it had probably 3-4 ounces in it. Is this a normal byproduct of the increased oil flow from the balancing hoses? I’ve been considering the Watson Racing Peterson catch for a while now, but it may have just moved up the priority list.

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Capaldi Racing installed the Watson Racing non-vented catch can on my GT350 when they installed a new FP350S engine for me. It drains back to the oil pan, see the red fitting on the oil pan. I have the vent plumbed into the intake shroud soAB7008ED-7F3A-4646-B580-A55671B8E31D.jpeg2D25923B-F692-470C-9FE4-E8EAC070EDC7.jpegE71ACDDB-086F-4C71-B1CE-2B3A5F6B2AFB.jpegB3F0B72F-4C45-4812-AF6A-A8105F34DFE7.jpegA7DD786C-83B8-4C7D-953A-CBD7B6529689.jpeg the oil vapor smell does‘t end up in the cabin
 
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Cumming, Georgia
Would this be necessary / beneficial on a 2019+ Gen II Voodoo? According to sources: "Bay to Bay" Breathing ports are re-orientated to better equalize block gasses and minimize windage" on the Gen II Voodoo. Wouldn't that factory improvement basically do the same thing?
 

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