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pufferfish
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sorry for abandoning everyone in this discussion. i had a lot to read through. i have been relying on email notifications for posts and didn't receive any, so i assumed no one was posting. i came on this morning to try to address the noise issues...and you all have already been discussing...ALOT!
so, i can't seem to replicate the noise in my car. i ordered a barton shifter, which should arrive today, to test fit to see if there are issues with clearance, as a fair amount of the complaints i have received are with the barton. but now as i read, it may be something else or a combination of things.
i have a better understanding of fitment, but don't quite understand why. it seems while some have plenty of adjustment in the upper to lower bracket slots, others are jammed at the lowest position and finding it difficult to get the bolts in. there are tolerances in the body that i have yet to fully identify, but it seems the tolerance can be as great as 1/2" from what folks are reporting. i now know that the whiteline insert raises the trans by around 1/8" by not allowing the isolator to squish. i know that the barton shifter flange is a fair bit thicker than stock, which forces it to sit lower. fitment issues can cause noise, but in the cases i have been hearing, i don't believe that is really the cause.
the noise appears to be universally, this marbly sounding frequency that is effected by rpm and as the rpms rise, it turns into more of a buzzing. i believe it is a frequency generated in the trans and transmitted to the shifter, which may or may not amplify the frequency. the interesting part of this issue is that removing the shift knob seems to cure it in every case where it was tried. i have not heard of anyone reporting that it didn't cure the noise when removed. i ask all of you with the noise to remove your shift knobs and report back. i need to know if this is truely the "speaker" in this sound system.
it seems that about 5% of vehicles out there with the product right now are reporting this noise, which in the grand scheme of things isn't so bad, but that annoys the heck out of me. maybe its an issue with the design, but i doubt it. i believe its the surrounding components. in either case, its my issue to solve because its the addition of my product that makes it happen.
i appreciate everyone's comments, theories, testing, checking, etc. keep up the good work!
so, i can't seem to replicate the noise in my car. i ordered a barton shifter, which should arrive today, to test fit to see if there are issues with clearance, as a fair amount of the complaints i have received are with the barton. but now as i read, it may be something else or a combination of things.
i have a better understanding of fitment, but don't quite understand why. it seems while some have plenty of adjustment in the upper to lower bracket slots, others are jammed at the lowest position and finding it difficult to get the bolts in. there are tolerances in the body that i have yet to fully identify, but it seems the tolerance can be as great as 1/2" from what folks are reporting. i now know that the whiteline insert raises the trans by around 1/8" by not allowing the isolator to squish. i know that the barton shifter flange is a fair bit thicker than stock, which forces it to sit lower. fitment issues can cause noise, but in the cases i have been hearing, i don't believe that is really the cause.
the noise appears to be universally, this marbly sounding frequency that is effected by rpm and as the rpms rise, it turns into more of a buzzing. i believe it is a frequency generated in the trans and transmitted to the shifter, which may or may not amplify the frequency. the interesting part of this issue is that removing the shift knob seems to cure it in every case where it was tried. i have not heard of anyone reporting that it didn't cure the noise when removed. i ask all of you with the noise to remove your shift knobs and report back. i need to know if this is truely the "speaker" in this sound system.
it seems that about 5% of vehicles out there with the product right now are reporting this noise, which in the grand scheme of things isn't so bad, but that annoys the heck out of me. maybe its an issue with the design, but i doubt it. i believe its the surrounding components. in either case, its my issue to solve because its the addition of my product that makes it happen.
i appreciate everyone's comments, theories, testing, checking, etc. keep up the good work!