GTD Mustang

[Boone]

325 front and 345 rear, but still huge. Just making sure we are the Mustang experts. Sorry.

 

[5.2 liters of democracy]

if i sell all my cars i can afford it

If I sold all my organs I could afford it.

 

[xr7]

325 front and 345 rear, but still huge. Just making sure we are the Mustang experts. Sorry.

Apparently Hot Rod/Motor Trend didn't read the specs, edited my post

 

[Stan Whitney]

325 front and 345 rear, but still huge. Just making sure we are the Mustang experts. Sorry.

Fun fact, the current GT500 can fit 325/20's front and rear already. Front fender space is huge.

 

[mavisky]

Fun fact, the current GT500 can fit 325/20's front and rear already. Front fender space is huge.

GT350 can too with proper levels of camber. I just want that SLA front suspension and associated crossmember.

 

[Ewheels]

GT350 can too with proper levels of camber. I just want that SLA front suspension and associated crossmember.

I'm really hoping SLA and transaxle make their way onto normal mustangs in the future.

Before the S650 was revealed, I was saying I hope they put a transaxle in it. Looks like Ford read my comment but put it in a car I can't afford

 

[Mike_FL]

Found this very interesting

 

[navseng]

I have seen a lot of comments like that. But I feel like we are attached to the name a bit too much.
At the end of the day you pay for the build of the car. Calling an LFA a “Prius GTD” doesn’t change the build and performance of the car.
Also I would assume the target customer already has a garage full of or has owned several $250k cars. Ferrari makes a successor to their main car very often. There will always be 911s GT(RS). McLaren 750s is the new girl on the block after just releasing the 765LT a few years ago.
Just my thoughts. If it posts lap times faster than your normal cars in that price range then I don’t see the issue.

I agree with this... The "its just a mustang" comment makes absolutely no sense.

 

[mwjscn]

Found this very interesting

The rear brake cooling solution is definitely interesting, going to the caliper instead of to the hub. I've personally never seen that before. I'm assuming it must be due to the way carbon ceramic rotors shed heat, so perhaps the caliper supplants the rotor as the area of concern.

 

[treynor]

Probably be unpopular but why would anyone spend $300k on a Mustang? Do what you want to it , it’s still a Mustang..

It's a bit like saying "why would someone spend $620K on a 911? Do what you want to it, it's still a 911." Except this Mustang is still street legal, while the 911 GT2RS Clubsport is a track toy only.

The answer is (a) it's a street legal car which (my fearless prediction) will absolutely blow the doors off of a similarly-priced Porsche GT3RS in both straight-line and road course performance, and (b) it's a Mustang, which is a big plus to many of us.

 

[PatrickStapler]

How many will Ford actually build? Is it going to be a lottery only purchase similar to the Ford GT? How many will get sucked up by actual enthusiast versus collectors that wrap them in plastic and store them in humidity controlled and conditioned chambers so they can cash in at the Barret Jackson or Mecum auction in 5-10 years?

 

[Ewheels]

How many will Ford actually build? Is it going to be a lottery only purchase similar to the Ford GT? How many will get sucked up by actual enthusiast versus collectors that wrap them in plastic and store them in humidity controlled and conditioned chambers so they can cash in at the Barret Jackson or Mecum auction in 5-10 years?

Well we know at the very least the gentleman who posted above you will undoubtedly take his to the track.
Ben, we all live vicariously through you

 

[Mike_FL]

According to motortrend around 2000 will be made

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2025-ford-mustang-gtd-first-look-review/amp/

 

[Bill Pemberton]

It will be a system similar to the Ford GT , so sadly that will ensure a bunch will go into collections to be stored as 4 tired 401Ks. Sadly, selling high performance limited edition vehicles will often see the majority of the buyers barely driving them or putting them in a giant hermetically sealed chamber of preservation. I have been hammered with calls from past customers and the bulk of them are collectors and as I have no real skin in that super niche market anymore ( I can still help friends and racers with more conventional machines ) I have just directed them to those that can explain the situation. The one really good thing is if Mr. Benjamin Sloss gets one I can guarantee it will be " Hammer Time."

Every time we get a super special machine we wonder if anyone will actually use it for what we think it's intended use should be. The reality is those that actually track their cars ( TTs, HPDEs, autocross, Drag race , etc. ) is likely no more than 10-20% of the population and most of my friends in Marketing think the 20% is too high. So, go look in the mirror and realize you are a special breed and that is why this is such a great Forum to hang out at. You are part of Genus Trackraticus Superbious and though a small part of the Human Race , you understand the word Race truly defines you!

 

[Ewheels]

It will be a system similar to the Ford GT , so sadly that will ensure a bunch will go into collections to be stored as 4 tired 401Ks. Sadly, selling high performance limited edition vehicles will often see the majority of the buyers barely driving them or putting them in a giant hermetically sealed chamber of preservation. I have been hammered with calls from past customers and the bulk of them are collectors and as I have no real skin in that super niche market anymore ( I can still help friends and racers with more conventional machines ) I have just directed them to those that can explain the situation. The one really good thing is if Mr. Benjamin Sloss gets one I can guarantee it will be " Hammer Time."

Every time we get a super special machine we wonder if anyone will actually use it for what we think it's intended use should be. The reality is those that actually track their cars ( TTs, HPDEs, autocross, Drag race , etc. ) is likely no more than 10-20% of the population and most of my friends in Marketing think the 20% is too high. So, go look in the mirror and realize you are a special breed and that is why this is such a great Forum to hang out at. You are part of Genus Trackraticus Superbious and though a small part of the Human Race , you understand the word Race truly defines you!

Some value cars by the virginity of the odometer. Others value cars by the number of Miatas it can pass in one lap.

 

[Bill Pemberton]

Be careful with that statement, as Miatas pass a ton of cars if one is autocrossing, ha. Having raced both Mustangs and Spec Miata , both cars suffer under the idea that they are not that fast or are not that great of a track car, and both surprise constantly!

Virgin odometer machines, that will go into my lexicon of great automotive sayings to use in the future, ha!

 

[RinerAuto]

The front suspension is fascinating to me. I haven't seen one that has 3 rotating points before. I'm guessing they are all in line on the steering axis, but just wild.

Anyone know advantage of this style opposed to a conventional lower A-arm?

 

[mwjscn]

Anyone know advantage of this style opposed to a conventional lower A-arm?

It's dual/double ball joint suspension, which has one joint in tension and one in compression. It's becoming a lot more popular with high-end marques within the last decade. It creates a virtual ball joint located outboard of the spindle (imagine the arm angles continuing until they intersect) that improves the scrub radius, steering, and brake packaging.

This seems like a great writeup if you want a deeper dive: https://www.theautopian.com/our-for...ouble-ball-joint-suspension-is-so-incredible/

 

[xr7]

It's dual/double ball joint suspension, which has one joint in tension and one in compression. It's becoming a lot more popular with high-end marques within the last decade. It creates a virtual ball joint located outboard of the spindle (imagine the arm angles continuing until they intersect) that improves the scrub radius, steering, and brake packaging.

This seems like a great writeup if you want a deeper dive: https://www.theautopian.com/our-for...ouble-ball-joint-suspension-is-so-incredible/

Great article on the double ball joint suspension. Ford engineers must have thought the improvements it offered was worth it as they did put it under the S550 rather then keeping the S197 setup.
The suspension on the GTD is modern art, I'd hang that stuff on the walls of my garage, its a almost a shame that the body covers it up.

 

[treynor]

[...]The one really good thing is if Mr. Benjamin Sloss gets one I can guarantee it will be " Hammer Time."

I assume that is a rhetorical question