Removing the Stock Oil Cooler, what is needed?

Discussion in 'Drivetrain, Exhaust and Electrical' started by VoodooBoss, Mar 22, 2014.

  1. drano38

    drano38 Wayne

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    Got my mounting bracket from 06mach1 a couple weeks ago--nice!
    Yesterday ordered the Moroso plate from Summit, AN10 wrench, and added a sheet of honeycomb to protect the oil cooler. Plan to leave the current full sheet honeycomb on the radiator.
    Today, from Improved Racing--934 cooler, 180 deg inline thermostat, fittings, hose, hose sleeve, clamps. Pretty much Grant 302's list, plus the thermostat (which is backordered to next week) (thanks Grant!).
    I'll leave the stock oil/water cooler in, so the 934 should be plenty big.
    Thanks to all for your info, posts, pics. Should make this a straight forward install.
    Gotta get it ready for Brainerd MN end of July.
     
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    VoodooBoss Rick Moderator

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    Wayne if you leave the stock oil cooler in you won't need the thermostat.
     
  3. drano38

    drano38 Wayne

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    Rick,
    My Boss gets mainly street driven, and spring/fall are a little crisp up here in the great white north, so I figured it would be best to get the oil up to temp before opening the cooler to 40 deg air.
    Maybe the thermostat is overkill.
    I'm always open to suggestions.
     
  4. 2012-Boss

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    If you are in a cold climate, I would use a thermostat.
     
  5. VoodooBoss

    VoodooBoss Rick Moderator

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    Forgot about how cold it gets where you live. I'm gathering parts for mine now and should have it installed in early July due to some travel.
     
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    drano38 Wayne

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    Yea, not everyone lives in warm, sunny Cali. ;)
    Gary, John, myself and others, life up in the arctic.
    My thermostat is backordered until ~ Jun 13th, so will be a late June install.
     
  7. Grant 302

    Grant 302 OPM Spent: $587,402 Moderator

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    Rick doesn't either. ;)

    Interested in your cold weather DD results. Even with the T-stat, there's still some flow through the cooler so I'd keep an eye on your warm up times.

    That sounds pretty good if you are only gaining a bit in coolant temp. I do wish there was a easy/practical way to mount an oil cooler behind the radiator.
     
  8. 06mach1

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    I started thinking about this. I bet my coolant never actually reached 228. I think what happened is I turned the key on for a short period of time after the engine sat, which would be creating heat soak. My actual temps running down the track are probably a little less. I will have to be careful next time and check right away once I get done with my run. I go back in a couple of weeks. I am happy with my oil temps though. I was thinking I might have to put the stock cooler back in along with an additional oil cooler. I will see what happens at my next track day.
     
  9. VoodooBoss

    VoodooBoss Rick Moderator

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    I finally got my cooler installed this weekend. I kept the stock cooler and added a Setrab 935 and followed 06Mach1's install almost exactly. A big thank you to Mike for answering all my dumb questions. I'm happy to report that after the install it fired right up and NO LEAKS! I need to reinstall the bumper cover and finish wiring the sensor. My only question is how are you routing the wiring from the sensor up into the engine compartment? I have it loosely hanging there from the sensor to the brake lines back to the firewall but I can't seem to find anything to attach the wire to down by the engine to secure it. Also a big thanks to 576 for the great deal on the cooler and parts. I'll post a few photos in a day or two.
     
  10. Black Boss

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    I covered the wiring with plastic and heat reflective tape and then secured to the alternator wiring and then the brake pipe body clip just above the engine mount before running around the strut tower and through the firewall.
     
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    VoodooBoss Rick Moderator

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    Thanks. I was looking at the alternator wiring but didn't want any interference getting into the sensor. But it's about the only place to secure the wiring harness.
     
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    I ran oil temp, oil pressure and coolant temp sensor wiring together and have seen no symptoms of interference. You're right there aren't other options, especially given the proximity of the exhaust......
     
  13. Grant 302

    Grant 302 OPM Spent: $587,402 Moderator

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    I wouldn't worry about interference in this application. The sensor signal is not RF and unless you run the ground in full parallel, there will be no induction on the signal.
     
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    Can someone please help me out here with this? For the time being, the oil cooler and filter mount is what is holding me up. The best i can tell is that the fitting comes off from the inside. It looks like there is some sort of allen key that goes inside there but I'm not positive. Does anyone have any ideas here?

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  15. Grant 302

    Grant 302 OPM Spent: $587,402 Moderator

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    Yes, you need a BIG hex tool to get it out. I'll try to find the size...

    http://www.fordracingparts.com/download/instructionsheets/FordInstShtM-6642-MB%20.pdf
     
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    Grant 302 OPM Spent: $587,402 Moderator

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    I think it's 14mm, but I jammed a 9/16" IIRC. The 9/16" was really tight.
     
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    Sweet, thanks for the help Grant! I will look around and see if I can't pin point the size or at least get a variety of different sizes. Thank you!
     
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    14mm was too small. I used 9/16". Torque spec is 43 lbft
     
  19. 302 Hi Pro

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    Getting ready to do the air/oil cooler install. Is this sandwich plate adaptor still the best one to get when installed with the stock coolant/oil cooler? Is there another one now recommended?

    Last question, is the Center Adaptor the M22 size?

    Thanks guys,
    Dave
     
  20. Grant 302

    Grant 302 OPM Spent: $587,402 Moderator

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    Someone's CX racing o-ring blew. Not that long ago, IIRC.

    I'm using this one, which I think is also in the FRPP kit.
    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mor-23699/overview/

    M22 x 1.5 is the thread needed for the center adapter.
     

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