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What FP350S parts do you want from Ford Performance?
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Now I see it. Thanks.
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I didn’t get my email off before leaving on vacation so you have another week to come up with more items.
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Was there any more info on how effective or why they felt the need to balance it?
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I’ll ask on Monday....
The Ford numbers aren’t part numbers they’re engineering numbers.
That is a very interesting BOM. I liked the Summit Racing sourced parts, I thought that was surprising.
I'm pretty sure any Ford parts person can use the "engineering" numbers. I'm not sure how far back Ford quit separated out how they use part numbers. I think wanted to keep people from knowing how different car's parts interchanged.
I'm pretty sure any Ford parts person can use the "engineering" numbers. I'm not sure how far back Ford quit separated out how they use part numbers. I think wanted to keep people from knowing how different car's parts interchanged.
It's amazing how many Gurney flaps will fit on one wing...
It's amazing how many FP350S parts are just dealer parts, although some are quite exotic - they list the lug nuts as ACPA-1012-GXA, which should be a dealer part, but doesn't come up on any of the online parts sites. If that's an engineering number, that would explain it. I'll check with my friendly Ford parts guy - maybe it crosses to something we can all buy.
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A properly tightened oil filter isn’t going to come off.
Diesels vibrate more and I never had one ever come off in all my years of being in business.
I torque every single oil filter. If you want reassurance add a clamp
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A properly tightened oil filter isn’t going to come off.
Diesels vibrate more and I never had one ever come off in all my years of being in business.
I torque every single oil filter. If you want reassurance add a clamp
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The OP topic was about asking FP engineers a question, so that’s my question. I torque mine as well. I’m interested if between the splitter and oil filters if they are attempting to take certain things out of the hands of the dealer.
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I guess I’m confused. The dealer doesn’t install the FP350S Splitter. The splitter attaches to the R splitter bolt holes and the splitter rods. The rods can only be installed by removing the bumper cover.
I don’t like the way Watson cut the grille either. Totally hacked the hell out of it. But I get it. It’s s track car and nobody cares.
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The official word I received when my OPG failed was it’s not necessary. I’m no expert on engines but my personal opinion is if you’re in the motor and have access to it then upgrade it.
Regarding the cartridge oil filter Ford made a running production change to the engines and even replacement engines have the cartridge filter. I agree with @8250RPM that if the filter is torqued properly using the OEM filter with thread locker it won’t come off. This is not official but there is no other reason that I know of to add the cartridge other than to improve the chances of the filter not coming loose.
Regarding the cartridge oil filter Ford made a running production change to the engines and even replacement engines have the cartridge filter. I agree with @8250RPM that if the filter is torqued properly using the OEM filter with thread locker it won’t come off. This is not official but there is no other reason that I know of to add the cartridge other than to improve the chances of the filter not coming loose.
The cartridge style is only to idiot proof the issue. The issue is improper install of the spin on filter. Guys are used to just turning them on by hand. This is the first car to spec out a torque value and run such high pressures. Oil techs don’t pay attention and just do their normal turn on by hand. As soon as you start pushing the motor RPM up at say the track or even aggressive street driving and you get the filter failure. The seal failure on the filter someone mentioned would be someone installing with it dry by mistake.
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For those that are interested, I figured out a way to get the Ford Service number from the Ford Engineering Number for a part from the FP350S BOM using the Ford Parts system online.
- Go to https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/shop-parts
- In the upper left of the page select search by part number in the drop down box and enter the Ford Engineering Part Number and click search
It will look up the Ford Engineering Part Number and display the part. Some are still missing which tells me that they are new parts and not yet in the system. 98% are there though
I am using Firefox so you will have to figure out how to get to the HTML source if you are using a different browser.
Now to get to the Service Part Number, go to the Firefox Tools menu and select - Web Developer - Page Source
It will open up a new tab and display the formatted HTML Source that created the page with the part on it that you are looking at.
Once the HTML text is loaded, use the Firefox menu and go to Edit – Find and enter pageIdentifier in the search box at the bottom of the screen. Click one of the arrow keys – downward or upward search and it will find the HTML tag
Right next to the found tag you will see the Ford Service Part Number. Its used by your browser when you add the part to your shopping cart when buying the part.
You can use this Service Part Number and look up the part anywhere like Levittown Ford or White Bear Lake Ford etc
Hope this helps!
- Go to https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/shop-parts
- In the upper left of the page select search by part number in the drop down box and enter the Ford Engineering Part Number and click search
It will look up the Ford Engineering Part Number and display the part. Some are still missing which tells me that they are new parts and not yet in the system. 98% are there though
I am using Firefox so you will have to figure out how to get to the HTML source if you are using a different browser.
Now to get to the Service Part Number, go to the Firefox Tools menu and select - Web Developer - Page Source
It will open up a new tab and display the formatted HTML Source that created the page with the part on it that you are looking at.
Once the HTML text is loaded, use the Firefox menu and go to Edit – Find and enter pageIdentifier in the search box at the bottom of the screen. Click one of the arrow keys – downward or upward search and it will find the HTML tag
Right next to the found tag you will see the Ford Service Part Number. Its used by your browser when you add the part to your shopping cart when buying the part.
You can use this Service Part Number and look up the part anywhere like Levittown Ford or White Bear Lake Ford etc
Hope this helps!
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I’ve gone through parts of the FP350S BOM and have found a couple of things. I personally am very interested in any suspension changes that were made due to the stresses involved with a dedicated track car. Upgrades are welcome from Ford Performance based on their testing and tuning 
Bump Steer Kit
Talked to Maximum Motor Sports and it turns out that they will be selling the Bump Steer kit to the public very soon. It’s exclusive to the GT350/R style knuckle. They do not have an exclusive agreement with Ford Racing? I was told so they can produce and sell to the public and will.
Front Suspension
I also looked at the Front Control Arms (Lateral and Tension Links). The Lateral link is the same as the GT350/R. Only difference is that they are using the Cortex lower controller arm spherical bearing. The Tension Link is a new part which has not yet been released into the Ford Parts System – no service part number yet.
Two interesting implications. First that it will be a Ford Part available through the dealer, lists Ford Dealer as source. Second, it’s hard for me to believe that they would make the effort to make it a Ford Part if there was not a larger install base then just 50 FP350S’s. Also the file name on the BOM (M-FP500-FP350S_Web_BOM_7-11-2018.pdf) tells me that either it will become a standard part on the new GT500 or something else is up their sleeve like a FP500. The cost to manufacture and stock a Ford part doesn’t make any sense for 50 FP350S’s
Front Knuckle and Hub
The front knuckle is the same as the GT350/R. Hub is OEM GT350R with longer ARP studs.
Front Sway Bar
The front sway bar is also interesting. OEM on the V6 , non-pp Eco, and non-pp GT???? Had to double and triple check the part numbers! But then the sway bar bushing confirmed it. V6 Non-adjustable on a race car?
Adjustable Front Sway Bar End Links
Can't quiet make sense of the whole thing. Lists OEM GT350/R End links. Then two line items lower lists another (different OEM) end link as a doner that Capaldi modifies into an adjustable end link? Adjustable could be optional but optional equipment isn't on the BOM, see below. They are on the Capaldi web site, look a little funky.
Drive Shaft
The drive shaft is interesting. BOM lists the OEM 2 piece GT350/R but yet Capaldi Racing has a one piece aluminum DS on their web site that they list as FP350S. Capaldi lists weight at 20 lbs (same as CF ones) so why bother with a CF DS that is more expensive, prone to heat damage, and has a potential to shatter? Safety loops (front FP already exist, rear Watson) also make more sense on a aluminum DS or the OEM 2 pc steel DS. I guess the Capaldi aluminum DS could be optional and thus not be on the BOM.
Rims
The rims are also stock GT350. I believe that the Forgelines are optional on the FP350S. BOM does not list any optional equipment.
Anyone have a list or know of a list of FP350S options?
Bump Steer Kit
Talked to Maximum Motor Sports and it turns out that they will be selling the Bump Steer kit to the public very soon. It’s exclusive to the GT350/R style knuckle. They do not have an exclusive agreement with Ford Racing? I was told so they can produce and sell to the public and will.
Front Suspension
I also looked at the Front Control Arms (Lateral and Tension Links). The Lateral link is the same as the GT350/R. Only difference is that they are using the Cortex lower controller arm spherical bearing. The Tension Link is a new part which has not yet been released into the Ford Parts System – no service part number yet.
Two interesting implications. First that it will be a Ford Part available through the dealer, lists Ford Dealer as source. Second, it’s hard for me to believe that they would make the effort to make it a Ford Part if there was not a larger install base then just 50 FP350S’s. Also the file name on the BOM (M-FP500-FP350S_Web_BOM_7-11-2018.pdf) tells me that either it will become a standard part on the new GT500 or something else is up their sleeve like a FP500. The cost to manufacture and stock a Ford part doesn’t make any sense for 50 FP350S’s
Front Knuckle and Hub
The front knuckle is the same as the GT350/R. Hub is OEM GT350R with longer ARP studs.
Front Sway Bar
The front sway bar is also interesting. OEM on the V6 , non-pp Eco, and non-pp GT???? Had to double and triple check the part numbers! But then the sway bar bushing confirmed it. V6 Non-adjustable on a race car?
Adjustable Front Sway Bar End Links
Can't quiet make sense of the whole thing. Lists OEM GT350/R End links. Then two line items lower lists another (different OEM) end link as a doner that Capaldi modifies into an adjustable end link? Adjustable could be optional but optional equipment isn't on the BOM, see below. They are on the Capaldi web site, look a little funky.
Drive Shaft
The drive shaft is interesting. BOM lists the OEM 2 piece GT350/R but yet Capaldi Racing has a one piece aluminum DS on their web site that they list as FP350S. Capaldi lists weight at 20 lbs (same as CF ones) so why bother with a CF DS that is more expensive, prone to heat damage, and has a potential to shatter? Safety loops (front FP already exist, rear Watson) also make more sense on a aluminum DS or the OEM 2 pc steel DS. I guess the Capaldi aluminum DS could be optional and thus not be on the BOM.
Rims
The rims are also stock GT350. I believe that the Forgelines are optional on the FP350S. BOM does not list any optional equipment.
Anyone have a list or know of a list of FP350S options?
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Here is a quick look at the FP350S changes for the rear suspension:
IRS Subframe – New Ford part number – released
Bushing Kit (IRS to Body) – Existing Ford Performance kit
Bushing Kit (Diff to IRS) – Existing Ford Performance kit
Lower Controller Arms – New Ford part number – not yet released
Cortex Lower Controller Arm Bearing
Upper Controller Arms – Same as GT350/R
New Adjustable Toe Links – Watson
Vertical Links - Same as GT350/R
Knuckle Bushings - Same as GT350/R
Toe Link Bearing – FP M-5A460-M – been around for while
Hub Bearing – GT350R with longer ARP Studs
Sway Bar - New Ford part number – not yet released
Sway Bar End Links – just as in the front – Lists OEM GT350/R links and then adjustable links from Capaldi, two options.
I guess the new IRS Subframe is interesting. Wonder if the Lower Controller Arms do not contain the lower spring perch? Could be interesting for those that switched over to rear coil-overs if this is the case. Otherwise not too interesting for GT350/R Magnaride guys.
Has anyone actually seen the new FP350S IRS Lower Conroller Arms? What to they look like?
IRS Subframe – New Ford part number – released
Bushing Kit (IRS to Body) – Existing Ford Performance kit
Bushing Kit (Diff to IRS) – Existing Ford Performance kit
Lower Controller Arms – New Ford part number – not yet released
Cortex Lower Controller Arm Bearing
Upper Controller Arms – Same as GT350/R
New Adjustable Toe Links – Watson
Vertical Links - Same as GT350/R
Knuckle Bushings - Same as GT350/R
Toe Link Bearing – FP M-5A460-M – been around for while
Hub Bearing – GT350R with longer ARP Studs
Sway Bar - New Ford part number – not yet released
Sway Bar End Links – just as in the front – Lists OEM GT350/R links and then adjustable links from Capaldi, two options.
I guess the new IRS Subframe is interesting. Wonder if the Lower Controller Arms do not contain the lower spring perch? Could be interesting for those that switched over to rear coil-overs if this is the case. Otherwise not too interesting for GT350/R Magnaride guys.
Has anyone actually seen the new FP350S IRS Lower Conroller Arms? What to they look like?
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